People STILL not wearing masks on London buses

[custard6543]

I had to take a journey by bus earlier. There were about 10 people on the bus, three of whom were not wearing masks. Drivers need to stop letting people on without masks - these selfish passengers are putting everyone else’s lives at risk!

There is one that hasnt come up yet. When it does i will have the full bingo card.

@Macaroni46 Can you please point where people said all the non mask wearers are exempt.

HeIenaDove

What has that got to do with wearing masks on public transport?

Nothing. Just thought id mention it.

Nothing. Just thought id mention it.

Oh good. Because for a moment you had me thinking now we are going to have smear tests on the Tube.

HeIenaDove

@MarriedtoDaveGrohl

Popcorn ready here too (and hard hat!) ...🍿

@custard6543

I'll ask again - what's judgemental about asking to allow those without masks the benefit of the doubt and for those of us who cannot wear a mask to go about our business, free from abuse?

So how do you suggest we deal with people who don't wear masks for no other reason than the fact they are selfish morons who don't care about putting other people's health at risk (and yes, a significant number of people who don't wear masks WILL fall into this category, whatever some of the naive posters on here believe!)

I'm not sure you giving someone the side-eye on the bus is 'dealing' with anything, tbh.

@SheepandCow

What reason other than disability is there for mask exemption? I didn't think there was one. Unless you mean you have a Long-term health condition (including PTSD) - which is of course a disability.

Trigeminal Neuralgia isn't considered a disability. But it's my reason for exemption.

1 in 10 people have asthma, 1 in 60 are autistic, 1 in 13 have PTSD, add rape survivors and other abuses and probably on your bus will have been 3 or 4 people who cannot wear a mask.
Simple isnt it.

@Okaro

You have no idea if they were exempt stop policing others!

No, but I'm wearing one to protect to them, and they're putting me at risk. In my area, a large majority of those not wearing them are 20-something blokes. They're almost certainly not exempt for any reason, just can't be arsed. The government should make some kind of badge or lanyard available to those with a genuine reason for not wearing one. No mask or lanyard? No ride.

@Gurufloof

1 in 10 people have asthma, 1 in 60 are autistic, 1 in 13 have PTSD, add rape survivors and other abuses and probably on your bus will have been 3 or 4 people who cannot wear a mask. Simple isnt it.

Around 25-30% of people where I live don't wear masks on public transport. I sometimes do a headcount if I'm bored on the train and the figure is always similar.

On my buy yesterday. I was the oldest person on it. Of the 30 or so that got on, approx 1/3rd no mask or mask on chin. All 20 something blokes.

Rather than going your all shits, why not take a stance of some people (a minority) can't wear them and how do we get those that can to do it. Primarily to protect those that can't and protect those that are vulnerable.

But people just went for calling people names.

@Gurufloof

1 in 10 people have asthma, 1 in 60 are autistic, 1 in 13 have PTSD, add rape survivors and other abuses and probably on your bus will have been 3 or 4 people who cannot wear a mask. Simple isnt it.

Except the several people who have asthma who have said they wear them, and the multiple people with autism and PTSD on the other thread they wear them. Perhaps all of those strapping young men in groups are victims though? Poor wee bunny's.

So when millions of disabled people were told to shield, and go nowhere, not go to work, not go shopping etc, by and large people shielded.

But if someone can't wear a mask it's unreasonable to expect them to not go shopping, not use public transport etc.

Both are big asks of primarily disabled people. And I'm not saying that they are reasonable asks necessarily. It I am struck that shielding which protected that individual was largely adhered to, whereas there is a lot more resistance to restrictions in life where it's for someone else's safety.

There is also the question is what does "can't wear a mask" mean? Some people will say they are exempt at very low levels of discomfort, others will put themselves through a huge amount of distress in order to force themselves to wear a mask. And yet, the latter are told that it just means they aren't really exempt, which seems unfair.

Do you realise the total hypocrisy in this statement?

Not really it's about judging others for not wearing a mask, your issues with people not wearing them are a irrelevance.

Get some empathy for Christ sakes

No one on this thread actually said that, as far as I know.

@MarriedtoDaveGrohl I know a few 'strapping young men' who have the same condition as me. You'd never guess to look at them. Or me, for that matter.

Also, health conditions affect everyone differently. Just because some people with asthma, TN, autism or PTSD can wear masks, it doesn't mean everyone with those conditions can.

Calling people who may be exempt 'poor wee bunnies' says more about you than it does about them.

@Gurufloof

1 in 10 people have asthma, 1 in 60 are autistic, 1 in 13 have PTSD, add rape survivors and other abuses and probably on your bus will have been 3 or 4 people who cannot wear a mask. Simple isnt it.

Well not simple really no. Asthmatics, people with autism, rape survivors, people with PTSD are not one homogeneous group. Many actively welcome masks.

Most asthma sufferers can wear a mask. Asthma UK has some good information about this.

People have posted about their experiences of being autistic. Some can't but others can and have worn masks. It varies.

Lots of rape survivors and people with PTSD can not only wear masks but the reduced safety of no mask wearing is extremely triggering and distressing for them.

@PennyDreadfuI
Sorry you suffer from that.
A medical condition that causes presumably disabling pain is a disability. Being unable to do something extremely easy for most people like mask wearing is an example of disability.

HeresMe

And your empathy for people worried about catching coronavirus is?

Except the several people who have asthma who have said they wear them, and the multiple people with autism and PTSD on the other thread they wear them. Perhaps all of those strapping young men in groups are victims though? Poor wee bunny's

I have asthma and can wear for short journeys, so long as I'm not breathing heavy I'm ok. Of those 1 in 10 with asthma however plenty will be unable to wear a mask.
I also didnt add other reasons for not wearing masks. Because I cant think of all the reasons. I guessed wrongly that people could extrapolate for the many reasons they might know of and come to a conclusion that quite a few people cannot wear a mask for a reason that they dont need to disclose to strangers. I've had asthma all my life, am sure some strapping young men also have asthma. As well as the aforementioned PTSD, rape survivor and other trauma.

“Rather than going your all shits, why not take a stance of some people (a minority) can't wear them and how do we get those that can to do it. Primarily to protect those that can't and protect those that are vulnerable.

But people just went for calling people names.”

Well said, a voice of reason.

I have other things to do and can't give this thread my full attention. Perhaps I've missed it but I've seen no mention of bunnies. Poor wee or cute or otherwise.
I have, however, seen people told to fuck off or called a piece of shit for wanting to discuss an issue.

@Theworldisfullofgs

HeresMe

And your empathy for people worried about catching coronavirus is?

Exactly right @Theworldisfullofgs

@Macaroni46

I'm with you OP. The amount of non-mask wearers I've seen on public transport or in the supermarket that are strapping young males is astonishing, some in gym gear. I doubt very much that they are all exempt! I also find it astonishing how many MN users believe all the non-mask wearers are exempt. Seriously? Get into the real world. And yes, it does bother me if lots of people aren't wearing masks near me. And people should be allowed to express that fear without being accused of disabilism. Because lots of non-mask wearers are not disabled!

Good to know that if you're a young man in gym wear there is zero chance you have asthma, anxiety, autism or any other disability or reason for not wearing a mask. It just has to be because you're selfish.

Can you please let us know is that just the case for young males in gym wear, what if they are wearing a sweater and jeans for example?