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How to people stay so calm?

162 replies

Chaosalloveragain · 23/09/2020 19:53

I'm a mess. Really struggled during the lockdown. Wfh with dc and found it beyond horrible. Dh working long hours in a key worker role. Employer didn't give a shit but what could they do I suppose?

Things felt much better in July and August, but now everything is so, so very bleak again.

No family support, during the lockdown no one bothered with us, dcs grandparents didn't so much as ask about the dc.

I'm getting so depressed, anxious all the time, scared for the future and trying to keep my employer happy and care for the dc.

Mental health just doesn't seem to matter to anyone.

Some people just seem to be so normal and taking all of this in their stride.

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EarthSight · 23/09/2020 22:44

I'm pretty calm about it, but I'm a lot more extreme when it comes to not going places. Haven't been to a supermarket since February or March I think. I deal with changes quite well and even though I am very careful compared to most people, I don't really feel much in terms of worry about it. I'm more concerned about being jobless right now and the fact my 12 year relationship is breaking down with little hope to now start a family at my age. I think it's a miracle I'm not worse off mentally, even though I had a bad day today and cried quite a few times. I'm concerned about the future with regards to many things, but I wouldn't say it's getting to me in the same way.

I don't think you have much to do this most likely, but can you find time to meditate? Have to tried writing a journal. No one needs to know, just write absolutely everything down even if you are writing essays.How much exercise do you do? Take up a repetitive hobby that requires a bit of focus like knitting. Lol. Sounds silly but you might as well try! See if it helps. If it's really awful, maybe speak to a doctor.

TooTrueToBeGood · 23/09/2020 22:46

I've learnt that it is futile to waste energy on things you cannot change. Focus your efforts on the things that you can influence and learn not to get stressed about the things that are outwith your control.

PerkingFaintly · 23/09/2020 22:57

I'm sounding annoyingly calm because I'm simply not having to cope with the challenges many of you are.

I absolutely take my hat off to all of you coping at all with the burdens and worries you're being faced with each day.

Flowers to everyone struggling on this thread.

Choconuttolata · 23/09/2020 22:59

To go with the swan analogy I feel like a swan with a poorly leg, so I keep swimming in circles.

Trying to face the prospect of home educating 3 kids whilst also working ft on the frontline. 2 possibly 3 people with ASD in this house who struggled last lockdown.

I have found watching nature relaxation films with music on YouTube helpful, I can imagine I am somewhere else for a while. Like one.

justasking111 · 23/09/2020 23:00

My children 2 grown, married, children, third at uni. my fear is for them. I spend time jollying them all along as best I can. At night in bed alone is when I sometimes feel terror. I plug in my ear buds for a good dose of some tosh on netflix to stop my mind spinning.

Holothane · 23/09/2020 23:02

I’ve never had this but today I saw the dull sky and just felt rubbish all day, it’s hormonal I know but all these no rules I just take it day by day now. Planning and buying Christmas presents has helped but today just felt low. No you’re not alone.

Heffalooomia · 23/09/2020 23:07

Personally I am calm, the pandemic has made very little difference to my quiet and solitary life, but I feel very gloomy and concerned for society as a whole, none of us is an island.
I think over the long term humanity will learn from this and move forwards, this could be a uniting force for the world.

NeedWineNow · 23/09/2020 23:10

On the face of it DH and I have had a relatively calm time. We've both been WFH and are happy spending the time together. We've been able to catch up with friends and my mum, whilst 83, is thankfully in relatively good health. I speak to her every day and she's gone out to get her shopping - she insisted.

However my mental health is shot to pieces. I'm scared of what is happening. My boss is being a real birch shouting down the phone and complaining - she doesn't agree with WFH and thinks everyone should be back in the office. It's hard when you are made to feel uncomfortable for following the rules.

fuffit · 23/09/2020 23:11

I've lost a big chunk of my income due to Covid and am vulnerable, but am more anxious about Brexit and what is happening politically.
And about climate change.

roarfeckingroarr · 23/09/2020 23:12

I don't know, I just don't - and never did - feel scared or anxious.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 23/09/2020 23:15

Wfh with dc and found it beyond horrible. Dh working long hours in a key worker role. Employer didn't give a shit but what could they do I suppose? ... No family support, during the lockdown no one bothered with us, dcs grandparents didn't so much as ask about the dc.

My god, Chaos, you and DH have been having a terrible time! Of course you're stressed. People may be able to cope with heavy pressure for a limited time. But when it drags on month after month, it wears you down. And when there's no end in sight, it must be crushing to your spirits.

Can you ask your parents or PILs to be in a bubble with you so they can help with DC? I know they haven't bothered up till now, but they ought to help if you say how hard it is for you and DH.

Sorry I can't offer any other help or advice. Only to say you're brilliant for still coping, looking after DC, bringing in an income, keeping things afloat, despite feeling so bad in yourself. I hope things get easier for you. At least, don't ever think there's anything wrong with you. You are moving mountains.

Staringpoodleplottingrottie · 23/09/2020 23:16

I’m not worried. In many ways I’m privileged - my job is unaffected and secure for the foreseeable, i have enough money and I enjoy my own company.

I’m single and child free so the only person I have to worry about is me. I have good friends that I’ve kept in touch with through lockdown and I actually really like post-lockdown life - I prefer meeting people one to one for a walk and doing quieter socialising, I’m not a big night out kind of person. I’m working from home full time so I’m around for my dogs and can potter about doing chores throughout the day, sometimes I don’t have much work on so I can have a lie in or pop out. I’ve got more time to spend on my hobbies which are singular pursuits like painting. I’ve got really nice neighbours in the flat upstairs that I formed a bubble with. I’m resigned to the fact that I might catch COVID and my attitude is if it happens, it happens.

There are many factors about my life and situation that make this easier to manage and I’m very grateful for that. I don’t love the thought of another lockdown but if it’s necessary to protect the vulnerable I’ll comply, I’m not complacent or a rule breaker. I can only imagine how much more difficult it would be if I was trying to juggle work and childcare/schooling, and I can fully understand why parents are finding it hard.

GRain5 · 23/09/2020 23:20

Anxiety plays tricks on your mind.

As someone else said you can’t waste too much mental time on things you cant do anything about.

It’s been a tough time but you can only influence your own actions.

Serin · 23/09/2020 23:27

Yep, things are definitely getting ridiculous now.

My 31yr old cousin (a young mum) has just had a stroke. She had rang the GP 3 times in the week preceeding it and been told she had a migraine and to take painkillers.

Covid is killing far less people than other illnesses are.

loutypips · 23/09/2020 23:38

Those that appear calm are probably not.

I'm very much of the view - this is global thing, nothing will change unless we do our bit.

Also, my mum is dying. COVID could potentially kill her off quicker. I want people to follow the rules to help protect my mum.

I've loved having my dd at home and wfh has been better for me. I'm saving loads of money.

You need to concentrate on the positives. You need to ask yourself why you don't like having the children home, why is wfh not working for you. Your employer still has a duty of care even with you being at home.

Antonin · 23/09/2020 23:52

I haven’t been out since March as I’m very vulnerable and unlikely to survive a dose of the virus. On one level I know I’m fortunate because most things can be delivered and there is nothing I need EXCePT being able to meet up with friends for a chat and a laugh and to get out and enjoy the countryside. My mobility is suffering and I feel what limited time I have left is slipping through my fingers. Not sleeping well and never feel like getting up in the mornings to face the bleakness of the situation. I’ve no trust in the Government and Brexit will just add to the hardship the ordinary people of this country will have to face.
In normal times I’m quite cheerful but now ———- 😿

LUZON · 24/09/2020 00:00

The only people I know who aren't stressed with this are mums with teenagers that don't work

Really? I’d have thought all Mums of teens would be very worried. My kids are in their 20s and have all got grad jobs etc so are all sorted (fingers crossed) . I keep thinking how difficult it must be to be a parent of a teen at the moment. There would be so many things to worry about.

BoomBoomsCousin · 24/09/2020 00:15

I'm getting so depressed, anxious all the time, scared for the future and trying to keep my employer happy and care for the dc.

Mental health just doesn't seem to matter to anyone.

What do you normally do, (e.g. pre-covid) to ensure your mental health stays good?

I have always made time for friends, exercised unless injured, eaten plenty of fruit and veg, spent time outside, made time for myself. I've made it a point to notice if I was getting reluctant to do things (like see friends/go out/make myself look presentable) and put effort into countering that immediately. I note if I start to increase my drinking and clamp down straight away. These are my weak spots so it's what I concentrate on. I did get depressed after having kids because I didn't have the same freedom to see other adults and I slept really badly, so I made an effort to change my situation, enrolling in an online degree to give me a non-baby focus while I waited for changes in our family life that I'd pushed for to come into place.

Now, during covid, those practices hold me up pretty well. I have to rearrange things to ensure I can enjoy nature and talk with adult friends because our normal way of doing things is disrupted, but I have zoom chats with friends, we meet, now, for socially distanced coffee outside in the park. I noticed I had started drinking more so now only drink on weekends. I worried a lot about getting CV at first, so I made myself think of other things everytime I started. I also started discussing how our kids could cope if both DH and I were knocked out by it and put plans in place so I didn't need to worry about the big thing I actually could control.

My point is that a lot of mental health isn't a matter of rolling along and everything is fine and then suddenly, for no apparent reason, you become unwell. It does happen, of course, especially if you undergo trauma, but you can build resilience and make poor mental health much less likely.

Like physical fitness, you need to incorporate good practice into your day to day life, not just wait for something to go wrong before you consider it. Keeping up relationships, spending time outside near greenery, exercising, eating well, not drinking (or indulging in other drugs) too much, getting good sleep, not indulging irrational fears and anxiety when they first start, are all steps that are good for your mental health. The key I've found is to notice early before things become a problem and jump on them right at the start, not indulging them at all. Making yourself go to things you ought to when you first start to get reluctant, cutting back when you notice the urge to over indulge. Shaking things up before the bad habits become ingrained and harder to break. I don't mean if this happens once - there's nothing wrong with ducking out of something once, or over-indulging every now and then - but if the next time you feel the same urge, then clamp down.

Things like meditating or a hobby are other practices that seem to be protective. An activity that takes your mind away from the worries you might otherwise indulge in. A hobby where you spend the whole time chatting with a friend about your worries is unlikely to be much use.

It is harder with young kids because you can't always find time to get a bit of space or to talk with other adults and that's really waring. But it's not impossible to look for the joy in the moment, knowing that this phase will pass and things will change. To make yourself take them to the park/woods/whereever when you do have time. And to lower your expectations for what childcare looks like when you need to work (or even when you need a little time to yourself).

blueshoes · 24/09/2020 00:21

I am not bothered and don't know anyone who appears to be. I am just superbusy WFH but at least that means my job is secure.

My dcs are teenagers and I don't have the stress of parenting and working at the same time. I caught COVID at its height but other than 4 days in bed, have recovered with antibodies to prove it. I am not living with anyone vulnerable nor worried about catching COVID again and if I do, confident I can beat it off.

It is a complete coincidence that COVID has hit at this time of my life. If it was 10 years ago, I would probably struggle. But not with mental health, just with balancing it all.

We are going to come out of this stronger. Normality or a new normality will return. Brew

blueshoes · 24/09/2020 00:28

I’d have thought all Mums of teens would be very worried.

Not all.

My teens are 14 and 17. Their GCSEs and A Levels have been messed in that they did/may not get to prove themselves up in the year end exam but they know now to put consistent work in throughout the year in case their teachers get to decide their grades again. They are far enough from getting a job to have a hope that the economy might have picked up by then and to aim for the sectors that are still growing, not shrinking.

During lockdown, they were a little isolated and did not go out much, but the xbox and the headphones got a good airing.

110APiccadilly · 24/09/2020 04:58

I look calm. I'm really, really not. A second lockdown could do huge mental health damage to DH. But right now, the only way I can support him is to be calm on the surface, so that's what I'm doing.

Namechanger20183110 · 24/09/2020 05:21

The way I compartmentalise it is as follows :

Case numbers now are nowhere near as high as what they were in March and April. I have much less chance of catching it now compared to before.

Even if I catch it - it's not a death sentence. Even if I had all the known risk factors, my chances of surviving it are greater than dying from it. That is a fact, not me just living with blind hope. We are so advanced with treatments.

If I get long covid, then I reassure myself that we are relatively new into this disease and that no expense is being spared to develop pioneering treatments so that we understand exactly what we are dealing with here. I won't stay debilitated forever.

If I was able to mentally survive the first wave, I can get through the next one - which ALL experts have agreed will not be as severe. The actual threat level is very low compared to 6 months ago.

I am worried about society - the unrest that comes from job losses and more restrictions imposed. I am worried that should I or anyone in my family get a serious illness tomorrow or find a lump, we may have to wait like sitting ducks as waiting lists are so huge. I worry about my job disappearing . I work for a foreign-owned company who have muted pulling out of the UK before. I worry about schools closing and how that will affect my child's development (he's not old enough yet for me to be concerned about exams or job prospects)

I limit my exposure to mainstream media and try and stick to the facts, rather than speculation in the daily mail.

Believe it or not, I take breaks from Mumsnet, as there are many stressed and anxious posters on here who are using it as their emotional release.

I focus on the positives.

motherrunner · 24/09/2020 06:22

You’re not alone. If you saw me you’d think I’ve been totally unaffected.

However, I’ve not seen or spoken to my mum since March as she’s in a nursing home that has never reopened. I taught live throughout lockdown to timetable with my own children at home. I now feel sick going into work each day facing my classes. We wear no masks. There’s been 3 positive cases. I’m exhausted.

How I manage? I’ve been on antidepressants for the last 6 weeks. I also bottle it all up and fake a smile to the world.

miimblemomble · 24/09/2020 06:42

I’m one of the calm ones. I got a positive test for Covid yesterday - that gave me pause as i didn’t expect it (don’t have any of the classic symptoms) - but I’m back to the equilibrium now.

How to maintain calm? I read a fair amount of philosophy and have read a lot about stoicism. Their approach to uncertainty, illness and death is very helpful. It boils down to recognising what you can and cannot control. And if you can’t control something what is the point in dwelling on it? And further, if I do fret and worry about these things that are beyond my control, I’m not in a good place to help my husband, children parents and friends. So I can’t control the situation I find myself in (pandemic, infection, recession whatever) but I can control how I respond to it - and for me, a calm response is one that helps me and others.

Techniques like mindfulness can help achieve this. Also meditation. And reading and therapy. Have you read Feel the Fear? It’s a very accessible self help book, and has a lot in common with stoicism.

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