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Bonny lasses assemble for the North East support thread 2!

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PennyDreadfuI · 22/09/2020 15:19

Shiny new thread for all your north east needs.

Hello 👋

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GalaxyCookieCrumble · 23/09/2020 17:42

Well a whole year group in Darlington has been sent home for 14 days, what a shit time for the kids and teachers.

HeIenaDove · 23/09/2020 17:48

Im not in the North East but thought id just drop this into the thread, Apologies if someone already has.......

www.politicshome.com/news/article/serco-contract-tracing-concentrix

Exclusive: Serco Have Subcontracted Contact Tracing Jobs To The Company Embroiled In The Tax Credits Scandal And Debt Collection Companies

The firm behind last year’s tax credits scandal as well as companies linked to debt collection services are among those who have been handed contact tracing roles by Serco, PoliticsHome can reveal.

The outsourcing giant was handed a lucrative £108m contract earlier this year to run a major part of the government's contract tracing work, but has come under fire for subcontracting dozens of firms to conduct the bulk of the work.

In June, ministers confirmed that Serco had subcontracted approximately 9,000 staff out of the total 10,500 required to run the service to a panel of 29 subcontractors, but refused to reveal the list of firms because of commercial sensitivity.

But PoliticsHome can reveal that Concentrix, the US company behind a major tax credits debacle, are among those who have been handed contracts by Serco to provide staff to run the scheme.

Concentrix had been hired by HMRC in 2014 to tackle fraud and error in the tax credit system, but were removed just two years later following a swathe of complaints from MPs and claimants who had had their benefits reduced or halted by the firm

Ministers later admitted that 87% of the 36,000 people who lodged an appeal against the firm's rulings had their complaints upheld, while HMRC revealed that the cost of conducting mandatory reviews and closing the 181,000 cases left open by Concentrix had cost a further £30m in staff time.

Last year, the firm faced further criticism over their handling of the UK's Action Fraud call center after an investigation by The Times revealed staff handling calls had described fraud victims as "morons", "psychos" and "screwballs".

Speaking to MPs after the reports, then-civil service chief executive John Manzoni said officials would "make sure" the firm were not awarded further government work "unless they could persuade us that they had got better".

But despite the scandals, the company appears to have been contracted by Serco to run Tier 3 contact tracing services, which involves calling people who have come into close contact with an infected person and telling them to self-isolate.

Meanwhile, Serco have also handed contracts to two companies whose work is connected to debt collection services.

NCO Europe is a debt collection company that bills itself as “the UK's leading customer service provider, from Contact Solutions to creating Payment Plans”, while Arvato CRM UK says it delivers “award-winning customer service and back-office processing services for some of the world’s most respected brands”. It is part of the global network of Arvato, owned by Bertelsman. Its sister company, Arvato Financial Solutions, offers debt collection services.

Ministers have already faced criticism over the use of private firms to conduct contact tracing after it was revealed in August that the system had reached just 54% of people who had been in close contact with an infected person in the 20 worst-hit parts of the UK.

A spokesperson for Arvato declined to comment. A spokesperson for the Department for Health directed PoliticsHome to Serco. A spokesperson for the outsourcing firm said: “We went through a due diligence process for all our subcontractors that looked at their contact centre and customer service experience.

“Some of the subcontractors were already also on the Cabinet Office’s Crown Commercial Framework for Contact Centres.”

NCO Europe and Concentrix did not respond to requests for comment.

Responding to the story, shadow cabinet minister Rachel Reeves said: "As if continuing outsourcing to a company with such a bad track record wasn't enough, this government didn't even ensure that those it was subcontracting were up to the job.

"Instead of outsourcing to tier upon tier of private companies, this Tory government should have put money into our public services which know local communities better, and are far more efficient.

"With the testing system on the brink of collapse when we need it most, the government has serious questions to answer on why this subcontractor - embroiled in scandal and with a track record of failing government services - was given responsibility for part of one of the most systems in our country."

BessieSurtees · 23/09/2020 17:55

Wallbottle Academy in Newcastle has closed year 13 and some pupils from year 9, they say less than 5 people are positive but it was not caught in the school and they are being cautious. But what if next month more people get it? Not that I know the answer.

A proper track n trace that works? Close the pubs to keep the schools open? Community officers to monitor and report?

RedCatBlueCat · 23/09/2020 18:02

@Janedownourlane Currently that would be fine (indeed, we are trying to do a similar Stockton-London family meet up).
The covid messenger thing suggests rates were falling last week. The Gazette seems to be suggesting they are rising again. Fingers crossed you get to see your Daughter soon.

BessieSurtees · 23/09/2020 18:03

I remember the Concentrix tax credit disaster, imagine how totally incompetent they had to be for the government to intervene. They devastated a few lives and minds before they were pulled though.

Whisperinastorm · 23/09/2020 18:12

@Plussizejumpsuit - Stockton isn’t under enhanced restrictions. Numbers aren’t looking great though.

littleowl1 · 23/09/2020 18:18

@RedCatBlueCat if you want to keep an eye on other areas too without signing up for the daily emails, I publish the data for the full list of councils here every day:
www.covidmessenger.com/coronavirusliveupdate/

PennyDreadfuI · 23/09/2020 18:19

Evening all. What a crappy day. It hasn't stopped pissing down and it's so cold and rubbish. As you can see I'm full of the joys today Grin

DH had it confirmed today that his company are not renewing the lease on their office and everyone will be wfh permanently. When All This is over (something I'm beginning to think will never happen if I'm honest) they may go in now and again for the occasional face to face stuff but that's it. I love having him at home (and all the money and time he saves from not commuting) but it's another nail in the coffin of normal isn't it.

@Shitfuckoh I was just saying to DH that it looks as if Christmas will have to be 'got in' from Gosforth and Kingston Park pretty much, because neither of us drive. That made me sad - like you we have so many traditions which involve town and going further afield (the coast for walks, Morpeth and Hexham for shopping) which we won't be able to do if public transport is essential use only. I still plan to get the bus home from Gosforth with my shopping because I have rheumatoid arthritis and walking a mile and a half with heavy bags isn't possible, so I consider that essential. I'm not sure I can say the same for going to see Fenwick's window as much as I want to Sad

@BikeTyson totally get it. I think the fact that we exhausted all the local stuff to do (ie walks, pretty much) during the last lockdown isn't helping. If we were sick of them in the spring sunshine they're hardly going to appeal in the grey autumn rain are they.

It's six months today since we went into lockdown. Half a year and not much to show for it except an extra stone and an Aldi Titan bar habit (I'm down from three a day at the start of LD to one every other day now. I'm a slave to the caramelly twats). And we have the same again to look forward to.

Yep, I'm proper ray of sunshine today!

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IggyAce · 23/09/2020 18:34

Well after my trip into Middlesbrough this afternoon I’m not hopeful we’ll avoid a local lock down.
Lots of people not wearing masks in shopping centre, or wearing them as chin warmers lack of social distancing, and a complete inability to follow the one way system.
I dread to think what it’s like on a Saturday.

Plussizejumpsuit · 23/09/2020 18:38

Oh @PennyDreadful don't worry about being a grump! The weather is really shitty today isn't it? Really doesn't help the mood. Maybe we can start thinking about how we re imagine Christmas traditions. I love fireworks too so I'm a bit sad about the lack of bonfire night stuff. And it's my baby niece's 1st birthday in early Nov. I know she won't know but a first birthday is special and only happens once.
So I'm not in the most joyful mood either.

The stuff about serco is horrific! Just baffled they keep getting contracts!

Dowser · 23/09/2020 18:54

Whoops this has moved on..a lot
@BessieSurtees
We are now insured with staysure.
We normally pay £70 for annual but it’s now £388 for 15 months..we got three months free allegedly

So a big hike for us but we are 68 and 67

We paid extra for covid cover.
I think it was about £25 ..but not sure if this was for both or each of us.

Now trying to get a flight..bloody nightmare

Dowser · 23/09/2020 19:14

Weather is dreadful isn’t it?
Can’t believe it’s been 6 sodding months.

Had to go into town, docs for prescriptions and supermarket.
Spent the rest of the day sorting out Travel insurance and Then find we lost our flights, so having to go a week later..so will miss our friends From Manchester who are there till oct 9

I don’t believe it’s been sold out at all, I think it’s been cancelled.

What a sorry state of affairs it is.

It’s not just a self pity party, I feel for us all caught up in this madness . The poor children, workers, the elderly, disabled and vulnerable.
People whoVe lost their livelihoods .
It’s been 6 months of hell.

Dowser · 23/09/2020 19:17

@DurhamDurham
Centre parcs..how lovely
Years since I was last there.
I know the feeling.
I won’t feel at all confident till I arrive on the tarmac in Tenerife next month.

HeIenaDove · 23/09/2020 19:22

And what happened to the masks that Hancock et al ordered that were no good for the NHS because they have ear loops (like the ones ive got from Boots) Why cant they be sent out to low income homes. DWP records make it possible to do.

PickAChew · 23/09/2020 19:22

@Someaddedsugar it says September but I suspect that will be extended with the new restrictions. Hoping they don't all close again because our garage leaks like a sieve and there's nowhere else to keep stuff.

Bonny lasses assemble for the North East support thread 2!
FrolickingLemon · 23/09/2020 19:25

Anyone in North Tyneside.. my DD has has prospectus' sent home for middle schools. I thought she would be happy to go to the next school up from her primary IYSWIM. However, Marden Bridge is looking good overall. Anyone have any DC there?

Someaddedsugar · 23/09/2020 19:26

Thanks @PickAChew - it's the most direct route for me to get to work if I have to head into the office and otherwise I tend to get stuck behind the school traffic so have been wondering when it will be back open.

Although as you say that might be extended, especially as we're nearly in October and it doesn't seem like there's been a change in the times it's shut. I've noticed after 6 it's open and occasionally on a Sunday.

Fruitbowlflowers · 23/09/2020 19:27

Checking in from other thread, South Tynesider here. DS is now self isolating for two weeks as he came into close contact with someone at school, he’s bored already, so much so he tidied his room Grin

Dowser · 23/09/2020 19:30

@IggyAce
@Thiswillbeinteresting
@AntennaReborn
@RedCatBlueCat
Another teessider here, from Monkey town
Married to a mackem

Weather has been all kinds of shite here today and sad to think it’s a long 6 month stretch till next spring.

When lockdown happened before , at least it was at the right side of the year with the good weather to look forward to , but now
Omg..my mental health will not cope with this at all.
But it will have to.

PickAChew · 23/09/2020 19:35

@Someaddedsugar

Thanks *@PickAChew* - it's the most direct route for me to get to work if I have to head into the office and otherwise I tend to get stuck behind the school traffic so have been wondering when it will be back open.

Although as you say that might be extended, especially as we're nearly in October and it doesn't seem like there's been a change in the times it's shut. I've noticed after 6 it's open and occasionally on a Sunday.

It's due to change to winter opening times, next week, I think. Not seen any announcements, though.
PickAChew · 23/09/2020 19:36

Have you checked his temperature @fruitbowlflowers? :o

shesgonebatshitagain · 23/09/2020 19:36

@SabrinaTheTeenageBitch

Sad about Fenwicks window, bit of a Christmas tradition for us. Theres a Christmas train comes around the streets where we live and thats been cancelled. I understand why because it draws some fairly sized crowds but ugh Christmas is going to be joyless this year isnt it. I keep thinking of extra things I can do at home to make up for it but by mid December Im ready to set the frigging elf on fire, nevermind anything else Grin
Ah Puffing Billy It is great isn’t it! My three love it and will be heartbroken it isn’t doing the rounds this year
EmptyFrogBarrel · 23/09/2020 19:36

@FrolickingLemon My DC is there and it’s fantastic. Only two Covid cases there so far Wink

Thiswillbeinteresting · 23/09/2020 19:38

@Janedownourlaneive attached pics of the stats for Stockton for today. I don’t live there but DD goes to school there so keeping an eye on it Sad

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givemewaffles · 23/09/2020 19:46

Joining in on this one! Hello from Northumberland!

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