Oh god. Back to having a walk then???

[ssd]

As the highlight of the day.

AKA another lockdown looms....

Why is everyone so extreme?? If somebody doesn't follow every single government recommendation it doesn't make them a rave-attending, mask-less social irresponsible. People risk-assess based on their own circumstances and who/how many people they're coming into contact with. Live and let live, except in cases of real antisocialness. Both extremes are as bad as each other!!

25 years ago what people call lockdown was normal life

Unless I missed all non food shops, pubs and restaurants being closed and only being allowed out once a day for exercise, not being able to hug my family and having to keep a 2m gap between me and everyone else, it absolutely wasn’t normal life in 1995. Nor at any time in the last six decades, I don’t know about before then, I wasn’t alive.

Presumably your workplace has Covid risk assessments in place to minimise you mixing with so many students and allowing you to distance as much as you can? If not, they should surely?
Ha-ha.

Pubs shut at 10.30 and eating out was a luxury.

In the year 1995? I worked in a pub and it didnt shut at 10.30. We also ate out - a lot. Maybe not to the level we do now but we did

I feel so angry that the few ignorant and selfish people have let everyone else down. We had a really good grip on the virus in June/July and now all that effort has gone down the toilet. Defiance against government rules affects everyone not the government alone. It’s stupid and childish and there needs to be more responsibility shown by the public.

@loobyloo1234 it really depends where you lived without wishing to be outing .... society has changed massively. We eat out more, even hug and touch each other more and are more connected than ever.

25 years ago what people call lockdown was normal life.
It was a bit rubbish

I was 17 / 18 in 1995.

I can assure you i was having the time of my life going to watch Oasis, travelling all over the country, going to the Netherlands to see friends (where i ate out and stayed in their house without the need to quarantine), going to night clubs and pubs.

So im fairly sure that life 25 years ago was like this, nor was it really shit.

We ate out just as much in 1995 as we did in early 2020. This is just made up nonsense.

I am in my 50s, I don't remember eating out on a regular basis with my parents , and it did seem more of a luxury thing, and my parents had a good income. DH's family had less income and eating out apart from cafe type meals was not a thing for them. DH didn't go abroad until his 20s either.

Sundays weren't great for anything being open!

We have regularly eaten out with DS, although not in the last 6 months. And interestingly I don't think we will go out as much once things become more normal, we haven't missed it as much as we thought we would.

As for Halloween, mentioned up thread, I think it can be just as much fun as ever, you can still carve pumpkins, decorate your house, watch some Halloween films with your kids, tell ghost stories, go for a walk after dark and look at everyone else's decorations.

Sundays weren't great for anything being open!

They were the same as they are now.

@H1978

I feel so angry that the few ignorant and selfish people have let everyone else down. We had a really good grip on the virus in June/July and now all that effort has gone down the toilet. Defiance against government rules affects everyone not the government alone. It’s stupid and childish and there needs to be more responsibility shown by the public.

It is so frustrating. I’ve followed things as far as much as possible. I was just starting to get some semblance of normal, albeit with masks and maintaining distance, with baby groups restarting but now I suspect that they will go as they are not seen as important. My husband works away so if meeting outside of your households are banned I’m going to essentially be back to the first complete lockdown, only seeing the postman or strangers in the street for days at a time. My mood has not been helped by being told by my step sister that this is how it has to be, particularly when she spent the summer not maintaining her distance with her friends from the looks of her social media.

@IfOnlyOurEyesSawSouls

There are some vile attitudes here toward NHS staff.

Seriously you have no idea .

What do you mean?

@VinylDetective I'm talking the 1970s not 1990s

[quote ineedaholidaynow]@VinylDetective I'm talking the 1970s not 1990s[/quote]
You said 25 years ago. That’s 1995.

It's just ridiculous
Clearly, these areas which have been on local Lockdowns for weeks on end now, why are they still in the top 10? Either lockdowns do naff all, or they are being ignored, and if so, why are the police not doing anything?
I actually think those who ignore restrictions should be named and shamed in the local paper. Nothing like embarrassment to make people behave.
Where I live our numbers are miniscule, why should we suffer again?

when it’s obviously fake news

Gee. I'm sure I've heard that somewhere before....

Come on. Fake news? Jesus wept.

I didn't say 25 years ago @VinylDetective, someone else did. But I am saying when I was younger eating out was a luxury, it definitely wasn't the norm like it is now for many people. Same as going abroad for holidays, that was really only just becoming a thing for families

[quote iskwobel]@loobyloo1234 it really depends where you lived without wishing to be outing .... society has changed massively. We eat out more, even hug and touch each other more and are more connected than ever. [/quote]
Speak for yourself. I was living in Berlin in 1995. It was a blast. Sounds like you're harking back to poverty-stricken Britain in 1970 or something.

Life was definitely not shit 25 years ago! When we have the perfect storm of a winter of Covid, flu, snow and no deal Brexit that will be shit. Shitter than anything we've been through so far.

@VinylDetective @ineedaholidaynow It really must depend on where you lived. DH's family got their first car in 1997. They had what we considered good jobs. 10 years before that I went on a day trip to London via coach and had my first ever Mcdonald's and a day out to the Virgin Megastore. My life was made!
Lockdown was hard but it's not beyond the experience of living memory to deny ourselves luxuries like a night or meal out, travel or beauty treatments. The government needs to fully support these industries and tax online gambling, shopping and social media to fund it.
If we can get numbers down by doing this and social distancing measures we can manage some limited reopening again over the winter.

@EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire

I am not ignorant or over dramatic because I have an illness and am disabled though. It just means that I can't follow all these rules because I need help from other people or otherwise I will die.

Providing essential care was allowed even when we were under lockdown.

@BoobsOnTheMoon

Misread that thread title as "Back to having a wank then??"

As you were...

Same here might as well as that's the only thing we can do for fun these day's

@iskwobel 25 years ago i was 20
I visited my family and hugged them , i went to pubs and nightclubs and danced and sang , i ran into a shop to grab some milk without having to have a mask on and disinfect my hands , (these days my hands absorb more alcohol than my mouth)
I went to packed crowded concerts
We shared drinks and buffets
We ate out a lot in large groups etc
None of this we can do now

How do we square the circle between keeping non-essential businesses open (vital for jobs) and Corona mitigation?

I know people like going for the nails and lashes done and the beauty industry employs a lot of people, mainly women, but at the same time they are completely non-essential and involve close physical contact. The only justification for them opening is economic. Is this strong enough right now? I feel the same about pubs and indoor dining, not picking out the beauty industry for any reason other than the close personal contact issue and the fact it’s been mentioned on this thread a lot