Second wave coming

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Yay.

Not apportioning any blame as they wouldn't have known they were infectious early days.

It's not coming, it's already here. This can only have been news to the PM and co, the rest of us with brain cells already knew it.

[quote AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii]@Ravenesque so then what is the point in locking down? It just kicks the can further down the road. So lockdown for a few months again and as soon as restrictions ease cases rise again?[/quote]
The point of locking down is to do it properly which we didn't. We were still having people flying in and eventually thought, hmm, maybe they should go into quarantine because maybe they might have it. We weren't testing enough or tracking enough or tracing enough. If our government had got their heads out of their arses and done the right thing from the beginning we'd be in a far better position now. They have been playing catch up really badly since the beginning and it seems that the thing that has most concerned them is how to give contracts to friends to make as much money as they can from something that likes to kill people.

It's a shitty disease and it's unlikely that anyone could have done anything to stop it before it went mental but we could have ensured that fewer people were infected and that fewer people died. Our first and second waves could have been far smaller. If they could sort out testing and tracing now we'd be in a far, far better position but they gave the contract to a woman who's proved time and time again that the only thing she's good at is fucking shit up and that's going to make life shite for most of us for quite some time to come.

Just put this on another thread. Schools affected by Covid.

www.boycottunsafeschools.co.uk/reported-covid-19-cases/school-cases-after-12-8-20/?fbclid=IwAR3UEadOwObXJfBdc0yZNqLYT-Jx1Ofe3k-ETBMLcnymGCPp3FRXlDvtCTE

WHY is he wearing a hi-vis jacket in that article, the absolute tool.

@Staffy1

Ah but winter will come to an end and there will be spring.

But not for the thousands killed by the virus.

I was being ironic.

I bet the hand sanitiser manufacturers are rubbing their hands together.

I bet the hand sanitiser manufacturers are rubbing their hands together.

:)

Very scared secondary school teachers here....

I know and I'm sorry. It's hard enough under normal circumstances, but it must be horrible now.

I was speaking as a grandparent. My daughter is a single mum to 2 primary aged children and struggled during the last lockdown. Schools going back has been such a moral boost. At least she's out of the flat now and in a house with a garden.

CFR (case fatality rate) is now being estimated at around the same level as seasonal flu which we have accepted, as a society, for years. The BBC have never felt the need to super sensationalise flu deaths every year, someone needs to educate the hysterical luvvies on risk assessment and sensible reporting.

@jessstan2, sorry

@Bercows

If figure if Boris is admitting it then things are worse than he's let on.

Just watching the news showing interviews in a Liverpool hairdressers with interesting mask wearing

I watched that 🤣

81 year old with COPD has no mask, hairdresser on a visor and other clients no masks at all. One other hairdresser had a visor and a mask under her nose.

And they were following the guidelines stringently

There is no hope for Liverpool based on that.

@PhilSwagielka

I've applied for vaccine research. Fingers crossed.

Good for you! At this point I would quite gladly have the vaccine injected directly in to one of my eye balls if it meant I could stop being afraid all of the time.

CFR (case fatality rate) is now being estimated at around the same level as seasonal flu which we have accepted, as a society, for years. The BBC have never felt the need to super sensationalise flu deaths every year, someone needs to educate the hysterical luvvies on risk assessment and sensible reporting

That's not a super useful statement unless you break it down by age. Can you give a reference?

When I am feeling particularly low I feel there is just no point to anything anymore. This just won’t go away, antibodies only last for a couple of months they say now and a vaccine won’t offer meaningfully lasting protection. We will just have to live like this - face coverings, distancing, no socialising outside of the family, endlessly recurring months long lockdowns, for the foreseeable future. I feel desperately sad for our children whose entire childhood might pass like this. No theatres, birthday parties, sports events, cinema, Halloween, fun fairs, school assemblies, watching weeks for their activities, seeing grandparents... and so much more. As a society apparently there is no level of (Covid related) risk we are prepared to live with so this is it.

That’s what I feel like on my bad days. Which is most of them.

@Beebityboo

If the schools are staying open, they need to immediately remove the threat of fines and lost places for vulnerable families like mine. It is actual cruelty to force disabled people to choose between their lives or the education of their children.

I agree.

@Southernsoftie76

I can’t see schools staying open when it’s at its peak, I can’t see teachers turning up to teach when we could be seeing 800 deaths a day again and I don’t blame them.

I wont be!

The good news is that the Oxford team are really close to finishing the tests on their vaccine - gone back to work on it again after having to halt when a volunteer became ill after being given the vaccine.

We are getting close to that. I listened to The Life Scientific on Radio 4 where Jim Al-Khalili was interviewing Sarah Gilbert who is heading up the vaccine and the testing. She's a bit brilliant.

Teachers will also out. No job is worth dying for.

@neveradullmoment99

Teachers will also out. No job is worth dying for.

Agree.

Will walk out sorry

There is no hope for Liverpool based on that.

We lost hope today when our local restrictions were announced. But we could see it coming, so not too much of a surprise. Didn't stop 2 people today telling me to "make the most of" my weekend before restrictions come in on Tuesday. Might have to come off FB this weekend.

I think this is the end of society and of humanity tbh

Children get the virus but are not affected by it. They can and will spread it.
No other virus on the planet is not spread by children.

Or not one I can think of.