Possible national lockdown over October half-term

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FT reports that Sage are looking at a 2 week national lockdown to coincide with October half-term.

article here

I personally can't see any further 'national' lockdowns occurring, due to the effect on the economy as well as the disruption to education, healthcare etc.

Think there will continue to be localised lockdowns as is already happening currently. Will that include schools, non essential businesses and healthcare services closing down too as per March closure? Not sure and I hope not.

Saying that, I'd be surprised if many schools will still be open by Oct half term due to lack of testing and inevitable staff shortages...

In support of what posters are saying re long term effects of covid - my mum had covid in April.

It is far from being simply a respiratory illness- it affects every organ in the body.

Covid has left my mum with what they describe as "sticky blood".

She has been told she will be on blood thinners for life .

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/13/i-was-infected-with-coronavirus-in-march-six-months-on-im-still-unwell

600,000 people with long Covid.

If we have thousands of young, previously healthy people left with debilitating illness and unable to work like the man in the link above then that is going to have a pretty devastating effect on mental health and the economy too.

BoJo is not going to punish the north of Scoyland with low cases because he cant manage the cases in N.E England.

Our schools have been back a month, we are doing well. And there's no need even for a local lockdown.

Good luck to them on that. I don't think they will get the compliance they did the first time around.

My sister lives in Melbourne where they are in a second strict lockdown. She says that people there are coming to terms with the idea that there will be periods of lockdown until there is a virus.
My teenage nieces are hating it. They were back at school for a few weeks but now are home again. They can't meet friends or go out anywhere.
I think there needs to be a strict lockdown here but the economic and social impact will be huge.

@EmmaGrundyForPM

My sister lives in Melbourne where they are in a second strict lockdown. She says that people there are coming to terms with the idea that there will be periods of lockdown until there is a virus. My teenage nieces are hating it. They were back at school for a few weeks but now are home again. They can't meet friends or go out anywhere. I think there needs to be a strict lockdown here but the economic and social impact will be huge.

Just what I said in my earlier post. People need to get used to there being a need for rolling lockdowns.

And I'm in Melbourne also so maybe it's just a different mentality here.

Read the news of “considering 2week lockdown” a few mins ago on bbc. Amazed yet again by the people in this country that anyone is surprised! We were warned weeks ago we were at a tipping point reached our capacity in opening up and what do the government do just continue! Schools reopened with no further measures than those set out in July, spectators to sport experiments briefly paused then back up and running, nightclubs being re-licensed as bars but opening hours just like a nightclub, I could go on! Why is a curfew not in place for a start countrywide? Businesses have an opportunity to adapt. The government is incompetent lurching from fiasco to fiasco. They are too populist, constantly reacting never being proactive.

To all those saying it will never happen, one sixth of the country is already in some form of lockdown and it is highly likely these will spread.

People are still not understanding exponential growth.

It will be a lockdown where the middle classes wfh and all the others serve them with home deliveries, empty their bins and serve them in shops

@Torvean32 I wouldn’t be so smug about your current low levels of cases. Six weeks ago north east England had low levels too.

I do understand exponential growth and at the moment cases in England as a whole could be approaching that point but that doesn’t mean all areas are.

Now it’s school term time travel between areas should be less so those places where the case rate is low and r under 1 don’t need locking down

Melbourne has been mentioned and is an good example of locking down what needs to be and keeping open what can be

The first national lockdown should have bought us enough time to have an effective system in place to avoid doing again where it wasn’t needed. A lot of the issues now is the North was forced to lockdown when the South has exponential growth and it didn’t

I don't want a national lockdown, but two weeks could keep numbers spiralling.

In an ideal world a local lockdown should work, but all it actually does is make idiots not following the rules drive from their town to the next one with open pubs.

People in lockdown areas need to stay put but they don't. I'm in greater Manchester and the behaviour of a few are what's going to lead us to need a national lockdown.

Keep numbers from spiralling 🤦🏻‍♀️

I didn’t realise National meant England. That would make sense on one hand, but surely looking at having a stricter lockdown on local/regional levels would be better?

I’m annoyed that Scotland has been hit by More national restrictions instead of local regions being properly locked down like they did to Aberdeen. But then all the universities in the central belt are going back, so clearly that was the priority - getting them to go to pubs etc. and spend money is priority.

The two weeks will be to cover half term to prevent DC going on holiday all over the country, and taking infections from hotspots to other parts of the country, via extended family visits and holidays in UK

half term is not soon enough

@weepingwillow22

To all those saying it will never happen, one sixth of the country is already in some form of lockdown and it is highly likely these will spread.

People are still not understanding exponential growth.

We’ve been under local restrictions for 6 weeks In greater Manchester (I’m not in a hotspot area). It’s hardly a lockdown - all businesses are open, everyone can freely leave their house, go on holiday, travel within the U.K. kids are at school, offices are open and employers expecting us all back. The only actual legal restriction is not to allow people to visit each other’s houses and gardens, and not to mix indoors in pubs but can still meet outside a pub or restaurant...so funnily enough rates have continued to rise in every part of greater manchester!!

@weepingwillow22

To all those saying it will never happen, one sixth of the country is already in some form of lockdown and it is highly likely these will spread.

People are still not understanding exponential growth.

There isn’t any exponential growth this time around- it is linear. And the increase in cases is a complete red herring, as is the demand for testing.

Coronavirus is real, but the overwhelming vast majority of people who get it will suffer none or only mild symptoms. A fee will suffer more seriously and sadly a small minority will die. But even if you are among the more vulnerable demographics if you catch coronavirus you are more likely to survive than not.

Anyone calling for another national lockdown is bonkers.

Newsround just reported there may be a national lockdown where cafes, restaurants would close but not schools or work places.

sensible,
although some would argue restaurants and pubs are work places, but this is where the infections are supposedly happening.

would pub owners/staff really mind?

@AlecTrevelyan006 It is still exponential growth. The doubling rate is less than in march, every 7 days rather than every 3-4 days but the end point is the same, it will just take us longer to get there.

I am not suggesting we have another lockdown. Just that if we were to have one it will be much more effective to have it sooner rather than later before numbers grow.

www.bbc.com/future/article/20200812-exponential-growth-bias-the-numerical-error-behind-covid-19