Shocked at people blatantly ignoring rule of 6!

[chestergirl39]

I knew it would happen, but it has still shocked me, especially the types of people who are doing it! (Eg not always younger ones). Someone at work, who has only just returned from shielding has flouted it 3 times already. She has bad chest and heart problems, so I’d have thought she’d be more careful. It’s hard not to feel cross about it, especially when you’re keeping to the rules yourself, mainly to protect people like them!

Of course it is about minimising risk annabel85, the virus still doesn't care though, it doesn't know this.

@cologne4711

Yet it’s okay to sit in a class of 30 or go to work in an office with a hundred people

And it should also not be difficult to understand that when you are seeking to strike a balance between competing priorities, education and keeping the economy going outweighs parties of over 6 people.

Going to school is important. Working is important (though not sure you need to be in an office if you can work from home effectively and I disagree with the government on that). Having a party is not and you can still socialise with up to 5 people.

This exactly, not sure why people cant understand that the government are trying to reduce the spread but still ensure education and the economy continue. Its a compromise which is why you can go to work (hopefully in a SD office to reduce potential spread) but not go meeting all your friends from lots of different households just because you're bored of distancing and protecting the vulnerable.

@annabel85

Criminals. It's up to the police and the authorities to enforce the law.

Ffs...

@annabel85

I don't think the virus cares if people are in groups of six or seven

No, but it's about minimising risk. You have to draw the line somewhere. I don't think people in groups of 7 should be bothered but large gatherings (i.e. much more than that) are completely irresponsible at the moment.

The government are doing what they can to keep schools, workplaces, pubs, shops open to keep the economy going, without cases getting out of hand again. That can't happen if people won't restrict their socialising and follow guidelines. Already they're having to issue curfews to businesses in some areas.

It's time people showed a bit of responsibility again.

Ok so why is my dh allowed by the government to play football with 21 other men on Saturday?

Gov doing their best are they...

“Your colleague may feel that given she has two kids in school in bubbles of 100 each that the marginal risk of meeting 7 people with social distancing is piddling. And she's right.”

It’s grandchildren though that she doesn’t live with. Otherwise I would completely get your point.

@MiddlesexGirl

Some people are just selfish. Always have been, always will be. If the majority of us abide by the law then infection rates should come down. I can't deny it's not extremely irritating though knowing that others are not prepared to make any sacrifices for the greater good. At least there are some voices of reason on this thread to counteract the selfish ones.

I agree, I’ve been shocked by how selfish some are.

It’s working in Belgium but we won’t know here be until many won’t comply with the law. Those that are complying and trying to keep safe are likely to be affected by those that aren’t. Not to mention teachers, healthcare workers, dentists etc who are putting them at risk.

SHOCKING!! Throw them all in the river!!!

Not sure how you can possibly be shocked, by anything Covid related, ever again after what we've seen in the news during the last few months

“If you knew it would happen, why are you shocked?“

I suppose rightly or wrongly I expected it in younger people who use want to socialise and generally will not be badly affected by the virus. I expected people who had health problems and had been vulnerable enough to have to shield to be more cautious, as potentially they could become much more poorly. It shocks me that people don’t seem to understand that if the government. Let everyone do everything they wanted we would end up with even harsher penalties. And it’s frustrating when you are following the rules - not to protect yourself or your family as we are in the less at risk group- but to protect those more vulnerable, when they don’t seem to be doing the same!

It’s working in Belgium but we won’t know here be until many won’t comply with the law

There's too many in this country who feel an innate need to be rebellious. Civilised people grow out of that phase at some point in their teens.

I will never cease to be amazed (shocked) at how much MNers know about other people's lives.

@HeronLanyon

Just passed a restaurant where a group of 10 (clearly work related) were eating at one big joint table. No distance at all between anyone. In the window on the street viewable by loads passing on busy street. Found myself thinking maybe I had misunderstood the rules ?

And I find myself thinking you should get a life and stop making assumptions about complete strangers you only had a fleeting glance at. I mean, you didn't stop for a moment to peer in and count the diners and work out that their meal was 'clearly work related' did you?

@monkeyonthetable
I really couldnt have put your post better myself. Its madness that 2 families cant meet yet people can still go to enclosed pubs and nightclubs on a night out where social distancing is virtually impossible. Lunacy from this government yet again but then i expect nothing less now.

Maybe they're just fucking fed up of arbitrary bullshit one rule for us, one rule for the toffs. Grouse shooting and hunting, anyone? Especially the shielded person.

iced I could see there were 10 and I could see two barristers clerks i know and members of chambers so I kind of think it was work related?
Not sure why my post annoyed (maybe not the right word Apols if not) you ?

@annabel85

It’s working in Belgium but we won’t know here be until many won’t comply with the law

There's too many in this country who feel an innate need to be rebellious. Civilised people grow out of that phase at some point in their teens.

Or perhaps you could say civilised people are generally treated as grownups by their governments?

@HeronLanyon

iced I could see there were 10 and I could see two barristers clerks i know and members of chambers so I kind of think it was work related? Not sure why my post annoyed (maybe not the right word Apols if not) you ?

You must have lingered by the window for some time to count the diners and ascertain the identity of several of them. You didn't just casually stroll past and note all this info, did you?

Should also say I noticed because it’s a restaurant close to me and I’ve really been wanting to go but they’ve not been social distanced at all (i pass it a lot) so I kind of keep an eye on it as I am wanting to go if it’s a bit better set up.

Oh well if you just think I’m maki it up I’ll give up. It’s used by lots of people I know I recognised several. Not sure why that’s surprising ?

@HeronLanyon

Should also say I noticed because it’s a restaurant close to me and I’ve really been wanting to go but they’ve not been social distanced at all (i pass it a lot) so I kind of keep an eye on it as I am wanting to go if it’s a bit better set up.

Have you thought about going in and telling the manager how you feel? Peering through the window and counting barristers isn't going to change anything.

Wasn’t peering. Just looked in windows as I was walking. Nothing unusual at all ! Not thinking of calling owners - others locally have said they will. Not sure I want to right now. Have long history with them and they are struggling. Feel conflicted. As thread was about this thkight I’d list what I’d seen ! Beginning to wish I hadn’t fgs.

I’m following the rules, and intend to keep doing so, but I can fully understand why others are sceptical.

My brothers’ partner works part time at a local college. Yesterday she had to go out and ask a group of 9 students, who were gathered in a big socially distanced circle, to separate into 2 groups. They all then proceeded to walk into the same classroom where they study together, for about 30 hours a week. I understand the need to limit contact, and in theory every extra minute you’re with a person you are increasing the risk. But after all that time NOT distancing inside, the increased risk from an extra 10 minutes, socially distanced outdoors must be negligible.

It IS shocking. Because if too many people do this, we'll be back in lockdown and I'll be back shielding (or dead).

But, surprising - no. I think we're all fed up with having to obey rules that restrict our natural inclination to socialize. But we have to do it.

But let’s say everyone one did comply with the rule of 6 and it reduced infection rates a little bit - it’s not going to eliminate the virus and it’s unlikely to drive cases down much. The minute we let people socialise in bigger groups again cases go straight back up, as has already been shown across Europe. So what is the point unless we keep the rule in place indefinitely?

People probably think they’re not going to be able to comply long term so why try at all. When the way out is apparently now a completely implausible sounding mass testing regime it’s hardly surprisingly that people are sceptical about whether meeting in a group of 7 is going to make any difference to the outcome long term.

There are so many absolute divs out there.

My favourite is the 'I'm sick of it' argument; as if a virus gives a shit whether you're bored of restrictions or not!

It's no wonder the rest of the World look at us as idiots only beaten by America!