Shocked at people blatantly ignoring rule of 6!

[chestergirl39]

I knew it would happen, but it has still shocked me, especially the types of people who are doing it! (Eg not always younger ones). Someone at work, who has only just returned from shielding has flouted it 3 times already. She has bad chest and heart problems, so I’d have thought she’d be more careful. It’s hard not to feel cross about it, especially when you’re keeping to the rules yourself, mainly to protect people like them!

@SockYarn

I vote to ban the words "flouting" and "blatantly" from the English language.

Who's with me?

Me!

@Napqueen1234 agreed

@SockYarn

I vote to ban the words "flouting" and "blatantly" from the English language.

Who's with me?

Is that because you are blatantly flouting the rules yourself and it makes you feel uncomfortable?

Would you rather I said people are happily ignoring the rules to suit themselves? Does that sound better?

Is that because you are blatantly flouting the rules yourself and it makes you feel uncomfortable?

It's because they're tired and trite and overused words. Again, why do so many people actually presume emotion in other people they don't know? The reality is that most people don't give a fuck what some random thinks of them.

@SockYarn

I vote to ban the words "flouting" and "blatantly" from the English language.

Who's with me?

Fuck no! I had a light spot of "blatantly flouting" pencilled in my diary for Tuesday next week.

Then I was planning some "flouting blatantly" for a fortnight on Wednesday.

I'd like to say I'm shocked at how unpleasant and judgemental knobs some people can be - but after the last few months - very little will surprise me anymore.

I am surprised at the amount of people on Facebook posting photos of them with friends all cuddled up. Even if keeping to the 6 limit, there's clearly no social distancing going on.

[quote Ecosse]@chestergirl39

The vast majority of people are at zero or no risk from this virus. We can see very clearly from the figures exactly who is at risk.

These individuals need to be supported and enabled to protect themselves- pay their wages and make sure things like food deliveries are provided.

We cannot have a situation where people who are at no risk are forced to stay at home and prevented from contributing to the economy.[/quote]
Agreed. Those that are in the at risk categories should be told they are at risk and offered support to shield until a vaccine is ready (assuming we get one). They can make the decision to shield or not it should not be compulsory but they should be made aware of the increased risk. The rest of us should be allowed to go about business as usual. We can all make risk assessments and decide for ourselves what level of risk we are prepared to take, it will be different for everyone.

It's bizarre. My dc is in a year group of 90 mixing at school but was breaking the rules by being in a classmates home with another classmate (so 3 households). We aren't meeting large groups or outside people but my dc will continue to mix with the people that she does for several hours each day at school even if it's breaking the rules. They've missed enough of that and it's nonsensical! You need to use some common sense and do your own risk assessments

@Waxonwaxoff0

Not shocking. People are fed up. I'm complying but I completely understand why people aren't.

I second this.

How do you blatantly flout? Genuine question. Does it involve a megaphone? Or maybe a sandwich board? Making announcements on social media, perhaps?

Is there a degree of flouting-ness? If I have 7 people in the house is that a mini-flout, progressing through 15 people being a standard-flout, and a party being a blatant-flout?

People who smugly makes statements like "well if you want to ban the words blatantly flouting then you must be a blatant flouter yourself" are either thick, or blatantly thick. I haven't decided which. Because it's obviously impossible to be both against the use of stupid terms like "blatantly flouting" and at the same time be keeping within the law yourself.

*If only people could be relied on to use common sense and show some regard for their fellow man and woman"

I wish people would stop using the phrase "common sense" there is no such thing, we all have different versions of what might be considered right or wrong.

We need firm guidance, no ambiguity ie the Cummings saga/Grouse shooting screw ups.

But most of all leadership & honesty, which is in short supply, as Johnson pisses around in a hardhat and a yellow jacket, telling us all about these amazing things that will happen next month..... but next month never comes!

I want to ban the phrases "new normal" and "social distancing" personally.
And "self-isolation" - that one gives me the rage.

@jasjas1973

*If only people could be relied on to use common sense and show some regard for their fellow man and woman"

I wish people would stop using the phrase "common sense" there is no such thing, we all have different versions of what might be considered right or wrong.

We need firm guidance, no ambiguity ie the Cummings saga/Grouse shooting screw ups.

But most of all leadership & honesty, which is in short supply, as Johnson pisses around in a hardhat and a yellow jacket, telling us all about these amazing things that will happen next month..... but next month never comes!

See this is the sort of thing that worries me. You don't trust your own judgement enough and admit you would feel happier being told what to do. :(

For me its 'for the greater good'.

'Greater good' for who exactly? Those under cancer treatment? Those living alone who were on the brink of suicide during lockdown? The grandparents who didnt meet their grandchild for 5 months? Women who are traumatised by labouring and giving birth alone? Those whose surgeries were cancelled? Those who lost their jobs because companies shut down due to lack of custom? Those who will die and suffer over the next decade because of economic fallout of these actions for the 'greater good'?

I love how whoever determined his 'greater good' has a crystal ball that clearly shows this one and only rule will fix it all. All of us who think other measures should be taken are just selfish pricks, clearly.

Can we also ban 'global pandemic'. The 'global' is entirely superfluous. People just love the drama of 'we're in the middle of a global pandemic!' That implies there's an end to it - beginning, middle and end.

his is the sort of thing that worries me. You don't trust your own judgement enough and admit you would feel happier being told what to do. :(

Doesn't every country need decent, decisive leadership that is compassionate and clear thinking?

How is that "feeling happier being told what to do" as if you're a muppet and it's a bad thing?

You can trust your own judgement and still expect clear direction from a government that has access to far more information and resources than you do personally.

It's not a free for all of individual ' judgement' of what to do.

@sunglassesonthetable so do you really think it's sensible that a group of primary age children who have played together all day at school are prevented from doing so for an hour or two after school is over?

See this is the sort of thing that worries me. You don't trust your own judgement enough and admit you would feel happier being told what to do

It worries me that you think that societal changes (which is what SD is, as its a completely alien concept to us) can be achieved without rules, leadership and guidelines....

So take the Safety at work act - instrumental in reducing injuries at work... doubtless you would say no need, its all common sense?
Speed limits, seat belt law, drink driving, smoking in public areas? no need for them, all common sense :(

Like it or not, people, left to their own devices, will very often make poor choices, in some cases dangerous ones.

Not surprised let alone shocked. Seen plenty of people doing it in the flesh, and many more on the tv.

I think the rule of 6 coming after the government's eat out scheme, pushing people back into cities without proper transport upgrades and an overwhelmed track and trace system lacks complete credibility.
I can't see my goddaughter because we are 8 and if I flout it the gov encourages the neighbors to report it.
WTF

@midnightstar66 I think our gov are tossers. But I wish they weren't. Wish we had clear, capable leaders instead of this shower.

That was my point. Doesn't mean I can't think for myself.

My son plays in the park after school with his mates but I wouldn't bring them into the house no. I wouldn't want to expose them to whatever the rest of my family had come into contact with during the day. And I wouldn't want to expose my family to whatever they had come into contact with at their homes.

The neighbours over the back are currently having a noisy party, there must be about 30 people there. It seems to be a wedding reception so I guess it’s just bad timing ...

@SockYarn

How do you blatantly flout? Genuine question. Does it involve a megaphone? Or maybe a sandwich board? Making announcements on social media, perhaps?

Is there a degree of flouting-ness? If I have 7 people in the house is that a mini-flout, progressing through 15 people being a standard-flout, and a party being a blatant-flout?

People who smugly makes statements like "well if you want to ban the words blatantly flouting then you must be a blatant flouter yourself" are either thick, or blatantly thick. I haven't decided which. Because it's obviously impossible to be both against the use of stupid terms like "blatantly flouting" and at the same time be keeping within the law yourself.

I’ll stand with you with my hatred of ‘blatantly’ and ‘flouting‘ And if I’m honest im not ecstatic about ‘unprecedented’ anymore