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Another National Lockdown

541 replies

Malachite234 · 13/09/2020 21:06

What are the chances ? Sky News are reporting the possibility and a second lockdown has become a reality in Israel.

How likely do you think it is ?

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EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire · 13/09/2020 22:41

Vitamin D deficiency is actually very common. It's why everyone should be supplementing. We just don't get enough sunlight in the UK.

Rubberblubberwhale · 13/09/2020 22:42

What would be the point? We lockdown, get cases down, open up again and get right back to where we are now? A vaccine is not guaranteed and rolling it out, if there was one, would take ages. Sounds like shielding restarting seems to be the plan... That would keep the economy going and allow things to keep running as the vulnerable would be safer. Very hard for those shielding but they would be in the same situation in national lockdown. The economy needs to keep going - we need taxes to pay for the NHS, care of elderly, schools etc etc. We need business to stay afloat so people have jobs and pay tax. It's just not feasible at all.

MadameBlobby · 13/09/2020 22:43

@Rubberblubberwhale

What would be the point? We lockdown, get cases down, open up again and get right back to where we are now? A vaccine is not guaranteed and rolling it out, if there was one, would take ages. Sounds like shielding restarting seems to be the plan... That would keep the economy going and allow things to keep running as the vulnerable would be safer. Very hard for those shielding but they would be in the same situation in national lockdown. The economy needs to keep going - we need taxes to pay for the NHS, care of elderly, schools etc etc. We need business to stay afloat so people have jobs and pay tax. It's just not feasible at all.
What about shielded people who work or go to school?
yolio · 13/09/2020 22:44

MarshaBradyo

I was referring to Boris Johnson and his mixed messages dictated via Cummings whose eyesight had to be tested on a long drive up North somewhere that broke a previous lockdown. Honestly do they think we are thick or what.

And believe me the world IS laughing at him now between the Covid and the Brexit. He has no shame.

BadTattoosAndSmellLikeBooze · 13/09/2020 22:46

So many scientists, economists and fortune tellers all in one place. 😜

ceeveebee · 13/09/2020 22:46

Although cases have gone up, there are very few people in hospital.
The lowest day for cases (since they started doing tests in meaningful numbers) was 12 July, at 368 cases in a day, and at that point there were around 100 people a day being admitted into hospital and there were a total of 1,951 people in hospital

Now there are 10 x as many cases, no increase in hospital admissions (still around 100 a day) and half as many people in hospital (around 800 today)

At the peak there were almost 20,000 in hospital

So no, I don’t think we need another national lockdown

LEELULUMPKIN · 13/09/2020 22:46

From the 18th of March up until last Monday when DS 15 went back to his amazing SEN school I didn't have a single hour of respite from caring for him 24/7.

If we do lockdown again I don't think I could cope.

Rubberblubberwhale · 13/09/2020 22:47

MadameBlobby It would be awful for them. But what is the alternative? Stop everyone going to work or school?

D4rwin · 13/09/2020 22:47

Which jobs would you cut from the key worker category?

amieejust · 13/09/2020 22:48

If there is another national lockdown I will not survive mentally or emotionally.

CountreeGurl · 13/09/2020 22:50

I really don't understand this line from the Government about the evidence being that the virus is being passed in homes and not in workplaces. How is it getting into homes then? Is it coming in through the taps? It's such rubbish. And if the social distancing rules had been enforced maybe we wouldn't be looking at a second wave

Www.dailymail.co.uk

EagleSqueak · 13/09/2020 22:53

I’m in Melbourne. Our ‘flu numbers are much lower than usual, thought to be mainly due to better hand hygiene, mask wearing and social distancing. There was a big push for vaccine uptake at the beginning of the season and I think that was heeded by many.
I arrived back in Melbourne from the UK in March and we’ve been in various levels of lockdown since then.
Today is the first day of an easing of our stage 4 measures which have been in place since 2nd Aug. Until now we’ve been allowed out for exercise for one hour a day (2 from today), one person from a household can go shopping (all shops are closed except food shops, pharmacies etc), we have to stay within a 5km radius of our homes and you have to have a permit to show to police if you work or give care to people outside that radius, schools are all closed, but from what I’ve heard from neighbours with school age children, the online teaching schools are providing is very good. We have a curfew in place from 8pm (9pm from today) to 5am. GPs, hospitals and other health services are open as usual, but telehealth appointments are encouraged where appropriate. My dd had tonsillitis last week and the gp wouldn’t see her in person without a negative Covid Test. Luckily, we have at least two walk in testing centres within walking distance and her results were back within 24 hours.
Luckily, the strategy seems to be working and numbers keep dropping. I’d love to be able to travel, at least interstate, by Christmas. I’d also like to see my dd who lives in Europe sometime before 2022!

NewAutumnName · 13/09/2020 22:53

I cannot do it again. I would rather take my chances as a former shielded on the ECV list - I nearly went mad last time it was horrendous. My nephew committed suicide after losing his job in April and left 3 children behind. I struggled and no way not again when where we live the rate was so low, it felt like we are all chucked together with parts of the country that don't follow guidelines. NO NO NO

NewAutumnName · 13/09/2020 22:55

@amieejust

I totally get you - me too

'amieejust Sun 13-Sep-20 22:48:17
If there is another national lockdown I will not survive mentally or emotionally.'

bibbitybobbitycats · 13/09/2020 22:56

@speakout

I have no idea but sad to see empty shelves in ASDA today- pasta rice, canned stuff, all gone.
Where are you speakout? I have not noticed this in Wales.
kittensarecute · 13/09/2020 22:56

@amieejust

If there is another national lockdown I will not survive mentally or emotionally.
Nor will I.
annabel85 · 13/09/2020 22:56

A lockdown would make no difference to me, as I'm going to stay in now anyway with Covid about to spread like wildfire. Too much health anxiety to be going to pubs and restaurants indoors when the weather turns.

The reality is the economy wont cope so it won't happen. They might shit the pubs and restaurants again though soon.

HesterShaw1 · 13/09/2020 22:57

@EagleSqueak

I’m in Melbourne. Our ‘flu numbers are much lower than usual, thought to be mainly due to better hand hygiene, mask wearing and social distancing. There was a big push for vaccine uptake at the beginning of the season and I think that was heeded by many. I arrived back in Melbourne from the UK in March and we’ve been in various levels of lockdown since then. Today is the first day of an easing of our stage 4 measures which have been in place since 2nd Aug. Until now we’ve been allowed out for exercise for one hour a day (2 from today), one person from a household can go shopping (all shops are closed except food shops, pharmacies etc), we have to stay within a 5km radius of our homes and you have to have a permit to show to police if you work or give care to people outside that radius, schools are all closed, but from what I’ve heard from neighbours with school age children, the online teaching schools are providing is very good. We have a curfew in place from 8pm (9pm from today) to 5am. GPs, hospitals and other health services are open as usual, but telehealth appointments are encouraged where appropriate. My dd had tonsillitis last week and the gp wouldn’t see her in person without a negative Covid Test. Luckily, we have at least two walk in testing centres within walking distance and her results were back within 24 hours. Luckily, the strategy seems to be working and numbers keep dropping. I’d love to be able to travel, at least interstate, by Christmas. I’d also like to see my dd who lives in Europe sometime before 2022!
And what does Melbourne intend doing when you're all let out of lockdown and cases start rising again?
CoronaIsWatching · 13/09/2020 22:57

@NewAutumnName

I cannot do it again. I would rather take my chances as a former shielded on the ECV list - I nearly went mad last time it was horrendous. My nephew committed suicide after losing his job in April and left 3 children behind. I struggled and no way not again when where we live the rate was so low, it felt like we are all chucked together with parts of the country that don't follow guidelines. NO NO NO
Bloody hell. Just don't comply if there is a new one.
Mischance · 13/09/2020 22:59

I do think there will be a second lockdown - we have been spoiled over the summer - able to go outside and thus reduce infection spread. Once we are all hunkered down in the cold then it will spread again.

I just think we have to grit our teeth and face up to the inevitable. I lost my OH in February so it has been very hard indeed living alone and not being able to socialise as I would wish. But I know it has to be done.

annabel85 · 13/09/2020 23:00

I don't think its fair that compliant areas get lumped in again with the lawless mobs of certain areas of the country that won't comply with rules.

National measures for local outbreaks won't happen.

MadameBlobby · 13/09/2020 23:01

@annabel85

A lockdown would make no difference to me, as I'm going to stay in now anyway with Covid about to spread like wildfire. Too much health anxiety to be going to pubs and restaurants indoors when the weather turns.

The reality is the economy wont cope so it won't happen. They might shit the pubs and restaurants again though soon.

My husband works in a restaurant and although it’s all going well there and it’s a very civilised place so no crowds of drunk kids all over the place they are talking already in terms of WHEN they close, not IF.
ballsdeep · 13/09/2020 23:02

@Fluffycloudland77

It won’t work though, Dominic Cummings didn’t abide by the rules last time & people won’t forget that.
I agree. I think this is the point where many, many people washed their hands with the government. If ministers came out and said he did wrong they would have had much more respect than defending him.
HeIenaDove · 13/09/2020 23:03

Crazy

VinylDetective · 13/09/2020 23:03

@Mischance

I do think there will be a second lockdown - we have been spoiled over the summer - able to go outside and thus reduce infection spread. Once we are all hunkered down in the cold then it will spread again.

I just think we have to grit our teeth and face up to the inevitable. I lost my OH in February so it has been very hard indeed living alone and not being able to socialise as I would wish. But I know it has to be done.

How are we going to pay for it?