to have run out of sympathy for people who find masks 'uncomfortable'?

[Frlrlrubert]

It might be because I'm out of tolerance for a lot of things at the moment but I've had enough of the 'but my face gets hot' and 'couldn't possibly wear one for 2 ours straight' brigade.

Barring medical exemptions, I think people just need to suck it up.

I wore an FFP3 mask at work day in day out for hours at a time for years. Yes, it's weird at first and it gives you spots and makes your eyes dry and sometimes your lips dry, but your body will adapt if you keep at it. (honestly, be glad it's not a rubber half mask or a powered respirator, both of which I've also had to wear all day for years and are grim/loud respectively)

If your glasses are fogging or it doesn't fit right try a different type - there are lots available. Mouldable nose strips really help with the specs.

You will need to speak very clearly when you talk so you can hear each other (I know it's shit if you have hearing loss - that is a situation I still have sympathy for).

Honestly, get one/a style that fits you properly, and get on with it, you'll get used to it. It really isn't that bad, and will save lives!

So... YANBU = people need to mask up and get over it
YABU = masks are the worst and comfort is more important

Complaining while still wearing a mask - absolutely fine.

Complaining and refusing to wear one - not fine.

*Exemptions aside - and I dont questions those not wearing them except in work where I need to.

I fucking hate them.

DP hates them.

We both have to wear the bastarding things at work (and visors, and gloves, and, in my case, sodding glorified bin liners). The technician at my most recent hospital visit (chest x-ray to check for lung damage from infection) says he hates it when he's doing emergencies and has to wear the full PPE, but even the standard ones annoy him so much that he walks for another two tube stops just so he can feel like he's had some air to breathe for a change. And that's in a place with air conditioning.

The difference between him and you in your OP is that he was kind and understands why it's so alien to people even without trauma, autism, claustrophobia or breathlessness and wheezing post infection, rather than 'Well, I've got to do it, so there's no bloody excuse, suck it up, Buttercup'.

I don't give a flying fuck that a young, fit and healthy doctor or nurse can run five miles with theirs. I can't run five miles without one, either.I think 'Good for you. Now fuck off'. I still wear the bastard things when I have to - but my rather lovely near collapse the other day from wearing one, overheating and being unable to get enough air in my lungs wasn't fun. It doesn't make me feel any better for somebody to say 'I don't mean you're a dick, you've got an excuse and you are trying, I mean them over there'.

Seriously, saying 'I know, it's shit. But we've got to do this and here are some tips for dealing with some of the problems if you don't have an exemption' is a far better way of handling it than the way you did in your OP.

If they are getting hot and sweaty why are they wearing the same one for those 2 hours?

It's funny how a woman chooses to cover her face with a niqab for modest/ personal/religious reasons you say she is opressed by men, but now the government has made it mandatory to wear masks you say it's just a piece of cloth and what's the problem. Oh The irony

@Burnthurst187

I was in a supermarket earlier and a young girls, late teens/early twenties came and stood about one foot from me at the check out. She wasn't wearing a mask. I had words

Had words about what?

@myhumps123

It's funny how a woman chooses to cover her face with a niqab for modest/ personal/religious reasons you say she is opressed by men, but now the government has made it mandatory to wear masks you say it's just a piece of cloth and what's the problem. Oh The irony

But that's different don't you know. Cannot remember the reasons why which is a shame as many are funny as fuck, as is the tying themselves in knots when the irony is pointed out.

@myhumps123 do you really feel the government is trying to oppress you by making you wear a mask?

Truly, like, in your heart of hearts?

Or are you just beibg facetious?

I don’t know why some people can’t handle the fact that some people can’t wear masks. You need to deal with the fact that you’re going to see people out and about without face coverings sometimes, and you won’t know why. The endless moaning about people not wearing masks is not going to help you - you just have to get on with it and find a way to cope.

@DeepTreacle perhaps some can't but I don't get why it's such a huge thing in the UK and yet where I live (Asia), no one seems to have an issue.

Not denying there are some who genuinely can't. At the same time, no need to make aggressive or moaning posts about it. It is what it is. We all have shit going on, no point in having a victim mentality about it all.

They are uncomfortable to wear so yes, i do sympathise with people who hate them.

I'm so confused as to how it is such a huge issue over here.

My mother has lung problems aplenty, and god knows how many medical conditions. But where she lives, the exemptions are only for children under the age of six. Yes, they're uncomfortable, but it is so rare I hear of people outside of Britain, America and Australia complaining.

Granted, we have a lot more flexibility, and I applaud that for those who need it, but there's a lot of people using that flexibility just to kick back against being asked to wear a mask.

@canigooutyet @HopelessSemantics just pointing out the double standards this society has. It's not ok for a Muslim woman to wear a face covering on as she is being forced too but it's ok for a bunch of men in politics to tell us to cover our faces and people are now turning on each other. Where is the solid proof that face coverings work? Please someone link some studies

@PumpkinPie2016 I’m completely with you, I’ve virtually bankrupted myself trying different types of mask, sprays for my glasses, had to get some new ones because I wrecked the last pair trying all the things people suggested. Nothing fucking works apart from placing my glasses and mask with a mouldable top in a position which has a 0.0001mm of error. Have to constantly touch my face to ensure it fits - totally against advice.

I think it doesn’t help if you have a small face (yes I have tried a kids mask) And therefore usually small glasses.

I basically now walk round blind in the supermarket - sorry if o bump into you because I can’t fucking see! Not to mention the migraine I’ll get later!

But nothing in comparison to those with mental health issues/past trauma that mean Wearing a mask could literally be life threatening to them or at least cause severe distress. Many might not have diagnosed mental health issues.

Yes if you have ok health,can see,not triggered by traumatic past events, yes knock yourself out and mask up but do not judge those who aren’t doing so, you have no idea what issues they are facing.

HopelessSemantics All that means is that where you live those who can’t wear masks cant go out. You may think that’s fine; I don’t.

But people aren’t breaking the rules, they are saying they find a mask uncomfortable? People are allowed to express an opinion FFS.

No one should be asked why they aren’t wearing a mask, period.
But I don’t have any time for people who simply don’t want to wear one. This doesn’t include people who have physical or mental health issues, past trauma etc, there are people out there who just can’t be arsed / don’t want to / cry about freeedumsss. If you CAN wear one you should.

Also anyone who suffers with steamy glasses get some tit tape, it works wonders.

I’m also confused when people say being ‘out and about’ without a mask. You do know there is no requirement to wear them walking down the street right?

In March the government recommended facemasks, only a few people wore them on, but since the government announced mandatory facemasks, only 2 weeks ago, people are up in arms about non mask wearers. Mob mentality

@Burnthurst187 so you had words with someone not wearing a mask that you had no idea about.so if you knew she wasn’t wearing a mask because she was raped 6 months ago when she was nearly suffocated by someone placing hands over her mouth. She’s be suffering from ptsd ever since greatly triggered by having something over her face. She’s gone home and is frightened to leave the house again. Still proud of yourself you had words????

You have no idea what strangers in the street are going through - kindness and understanding go a long way.

Sorry but I am drawing the line at fucking up my skin thanks to masks. I have had a pretty severe reaction, it’s reminiscent of actual acne.

It’s okay as I’m happy to drive everywhere and shop online

@FrothyDragon

I'm so confused as to how it is such a huge issue over here.

My mother has lung problems aplenty, and god knows how many medical conditions. But where she lives, the exemptions are only for children under the age of six. Yes, they're uncomfortable, but it is so rare I hear of people outside of Britain, America and Australia complaining.

Granted, we have a lot more flexibility, and I applaud that for those who need it, but there's a lot of people using that flexibility just to kick back against being asked to wear a mask.

Which country out of interest?

Tbh the only people I hear getting moaned about is the none mask wearer. And when people say I am exempt, a lot of the narrative is suck it up and wear a mask. Search any mask thread from March and read for yourself.

@myhumps123

In March the government recommended facemasks, only a few people wore them on, but since the government announced mandatory facemasks, only 2 weeks ago, people are up in arms about non mask wearers. Mob mentality

I thought back in March the advice was do not wear them.

And tape doesn’t “work wonders” it’s fucking impossible to manage when you’re taking your mask on and off.

I much preferred full lockdown tbh.

It was a recommendation not mandatory. May have been March or april

I hate wearing the mask. It's unpleasant and I just can't see the point. If we need to wear masks we should have been wearing them months ago when infection was rife in the community. Lots of people don't wear them properly anyway and keep touching them.

My biggest issue is at what point do we stop wearing them? I live in a London suburb and the number of new cases in the last few weeks is in single figures, in a population of nearly 400k. I don't know anyone who has died of Covid and only a small number of people who've had it, and that was in March.

I will of course wear a mask as that's what we've been asked to do and I respect that. But it's ok to say that it's not pleasant.