Would you have the vaccine...

[Klaudia14]

Just curious. Yes or no is fine.

If the vaccine against Covid19 was offered to you would you have it?

I'm not an anti vaccinations at all ( though I don't take my dog for boosters and do a titre test to check his immunity) but I don't feel like there would be enough testing done on a rushed vaccine. It would be hard one in our little household as DH is totally for it and I'm totally against at moment! We're not in a vulnerable/shielding group, both early 40's with a teenager. Both keyworkers but not on frontline.

I just thought I'd point out that Oxford, some of the key researchers there and AstraZeneca all stand to profit handsomely from the vaccine they're developing:“

Personally, don't care how much money they make if they stamp out this evil disease. Rather the billions went to them than football players and reality stars.

@G5000

So the people saying no, are you happy never to go back to normal, remain between lockdowns indefinitely? Or are you expecting everybody else to get the vaccine you deem too risky for yourself?

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head on your last point. Happy for everyone else to be guinea pigs to protect them.

100%. I don’t think you can be calling for a return to normal and refusing to get the vaccine. Although I do understand people’s reservations because it will probably be rolled out quickly.

If I don’t get a vaccine when there’s one available, I will be pretty much unable to see my parents while I’m still working.

I also have the flu vaccine every year because I don’t fancy having to have a week or more off work because of an illness I could have very easily reduced my chances of getting.

@MissConductUS

I wouldn't have any issue with a vaccine from the US or Europe (I'd be more hesitant about Russia or China) but as I understand it both Oxford and AstraZeneca have agreed to supply the vaccine on a non for profit basis for the duration of the pandemic,

From what was said a few months ago about the Oxford /Astra Zeneca vaccine, they will be charging first world developed countries for it to enable them to roll it out for free to third world under developed countries which seems like a fair thing to do.

Pfizer has indicated that pricing for developed countries will be about $40 per course (two injections, 3-4 weeks apart) and Moderna has said they plan to price between $50-60 per course, also two jabs. That seems pretty reasonable to me, as it also includes packaging, refrigerated transport to treatment locations.

Probably. I think I'm likely to be low priority however. DH likely to get it through work.

Re Flu vaccine... DH had a flu vaccine that gave him 'flu'. He basically had bad cold symptoms for a couple of days (as did quite a few colleagues who had it same time). I had an illness which is highly likely to have been proper flu (never tested so can't say for definite.). I barely left bed in days. I was a zombie. I slept for hours at a time. Basically DH or DM would wake me up periodically so I could breastfeed DD2 (she was a confused toddler wondering where Mummy had gone rather than a baby who needed it for nutrition, so it didn't matter it was sporadic), but I couldn't do anything else for them really. What DH was definitely not flu! I was a healthy person in my late 20s and it completely floored me.

Yes! I’d like to protect my family and friends and elderly relatives.

I really dislike the anti vaccination people who rely on everyone else to get it to give themselves protection -obviously some can’t have it due to medical reasons - which is why more of us need to protect the truest vunerable.

Absolutely agree @BluebellsGreenbells. Everyone who can have it absolutely should to protect those who cannot. Same for all other vaccines.

yes.

I have the flu vaccine every year as well . DH , DS and I. In the past we have paid for it for DH and DS and I get it on the NHS

I don't think I would. I'm pro-vaccinations and also have the flu jab yearly but it just seems a bit rushed. I know they have to do all the trials and there's a lot of research but I'd be worried about long term side effects.

Yes, I'd have the Oxford vaccine in a heartbeat once it's been through the necessary trials. Any other vaccine, I would want to do more research into it first but probably, yes.

In related news, one of the antibody medications that's been under development has started phase 3 trials in care homes in the US. This is significant as antibody treatments may bridge the gap as vaccines are undergoing testing and will also be useful for the elderly who often don't have a strong immune system response to vaccines. They're studying prevention in these trials but they are also promising treatments for early stage patients who haven't developed their own antibodies.

Eli Lilly starts late-stage study of coronavirus drug in nursing homes

@Fosler

I've not forgotten Thalidomide

Neither have I - my sibling is among those damaged by it. You have, however, forgotten the massive changes to drug licensing regulations which were brought in in response to the Thalidomide tragedy.

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-russia-becomes-first-country-to-approve-covid-19-vaccine-but-experts-have-doubts-12047041

Coronavirus: Russia becomes first country to approve COVID-19 vaccine - but experts have doubts

Anyone have confidence in the Russian Covid vaccine? No offence to any Russians or their scientific community. But you guys are super fast and proactive so well done and if all good perhaps spread the love!

It seems to be a combined phase 1 and approval.

I'm all for combining adjacent phases but that seems like too much of a leap for me to want to take that particular vaccine

No way

I'll probably wait a few months and see how it goes, if all is fine then yes. No one wants to be that first dog in space.

Definitely, yes. It would make such a difference - even if it only lasts a few months or a year, and I'm following the vaccines progress closely, as it's giving me hope at the moment.
I don't trust the government, but I do trust the scientists working on this. I assume they'll offer it to keyworkers and the vulnerable first, but as soon as they open up to the public I'll get one.

I would trust in a vaccine if provided by Oxford or any other trusted world class recognised institution with an ultra high and constant long historical reputation for excellence in their field. I therefore have less faith in the current UK government political leadership and especially one that is seeming making things up as they go along, hypocritical (Cummings amongst many others!), and been procrastinating and at best reactionary but as I said previously on another Covid related thread - also essentially seemingly trying to put out wild fires with a couple of buckets to appear involved! We need that "promised" world class test, track, trace and isolate for starters. It also needs to be compulsory (at least once or two consecutive tests to be conclusive) and both rapid and accurate and therefore trustworthy so that the Covid free population can know if they are safe to be economically active back to work safer etc.

@duffeldaisy

Definitely, yes. It would make such a difference - even if it only lasts a few months or a year, and I'm following the vaccines progress closely, as it's giving me hope at the moment. I don't trust the government, but I do trust the scientists working on this. I assume they'll offer it to keyworkers and the vulnerable first, but as soon as they open up to the public I'll get one.

Is there any update on it do you know ?

@TrindleGin I’ve not seen a very recent update, but checked a couple of days ago and the latest from a couple of weeks back was that the stage 3 testing was all going well.
Their page is here, which has lots of info and updates with news articles:
www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-07-20-new-study-reveals-oxford-coronavirus-vaccine-produces-strong-immune-response#

Obviously they’re going to want to give positive news, but I still find it comforting!

Would be first in line for Oxford. The Russian vaccine, no not yet because it’s been trialed in 106 people.

Great thanks