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Schools reopening 2

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oldbagface · 20/07/2020 20:18

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www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3971862-Schools-Reopening?pg=1

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ohthegoats · 24/07/2020 15:47

Visors are really hard to use when teaching. I tried this week with the children from my current class, who I've got next year too. They all came in wearing masks, so we talked about them as a 'thing', and I put my mask on and my visor and we tried seeing who could hear what. Was hard, and kept misting up.

I'm really worried about behaviour in my class in this coming year. Three children who just get up and walk out, one of whom has been told by parents to spit at teachers if they 'tell him what to do and he doesn't like it'. OK, great.

ohthegoats · 24/07/2020 15:49

If the teacher cannot reasonably be expected to implement/remember the plan due to conflicting needs in the classroom/hundreds of different plans...what then?

Quite. EHCPs need to be easier to get with all this going on, schools need to be believed regard who needs support, particularly those who need 1-1 but you're waiting for years for paperwork to happen.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 24/07/2020 16:27

My current school will pay for the jab if we can get one. I tried to have a flu jab October half term last year but failed as stock had run out.

We will be able to wear plain face masks in school.

Ickabog · 24/07/2020 17:42

@Flagsfiend

I was very surprised that we aren't on the flu vaccine list, surely with them wanting schools back full time teachers would be high priority - particularly considering flu symptoms are pretty similar to covid...
Agreed. Teachers / school staff seem an obvious choice for a flu jab.
Hercwasonaroll · 24/07/2020 18:23

If the teacher cannot reasonably be expected to implement/remember the plan due to conflicting needs in the classroom/hundreds of different plans...what then?

This

noblegiraffe · 24/07/2020 18:28

but I am aware that I have a 'susceptibility' in terms of MH now.

I don’t think that’s a fair thing to say about yourself. I think everyone has their limits, and that’s not a problem with you, it’s a problem with the situation.

cantkeepawayforever · 24/07/2020 18:30

I would say that is not just true for teachers - it is also true for those working with a child 1:1, especially when this is just part of their duties.

Even when a child does have a 'full time' 1:1 (funding for this is rare), then another member of staff will be responsible for the child for some periods of time each day, to allow the main 1:1 to have breaks. This other member of staff may be coming from a child with part-time 1:1, from a class TA role, from another role in the school such as lunchtime supervision - and may be bringing all the mental overload from all of those responsibilities to that short time with the child.

Equally, many 1:1 arrangements are part time - as I said, full time 1:1 funding is rare - so again the person delivering this 1:1 may well be juggling their knowledge of the needs of the child with all the other things that make up another role within the school which fills the rest of their contracted hours.

That is before you get sickness, training or other absence cover into the mix.

cantkeepawayforever · 24/07/2020 18:36

Noble, my daughter put it like this - when discussing a change that I have negotiated bearing this susceptibility in mind:

'Mum, it's like you spent a year digging a hole. If you put yourself in a similar situation again, chances are that you will fall back into that hole again. If you negotiate this change and walk in a new direction, you get to dig a new hole. You may not fall into it, and it may not be as big or deep a hole. Walk in the new direction, Mum.'

Hercwasonaroll · 24/07/2020 18:40

We get a flu jab funded by the MAT. The cynic in me says it's cheaper than the cover bill if anyone gets ill.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 24/07/2020 19:24

@Hercwasonaroll - you are correct. I was SLT at my last school and that was the reasoning. X cover teachers at £175 or so per day versus X flu jabs at £10 would make a considerable saving especially as some staff will automatically qualify for a number of reasons anyway.

And it will be the same discussion at the independent where I now work.

Keepdistance · 24/07/2020 21:07

The kids' nasal one is live so you may not need the jab (or need it before or at the time they get it).
Boots emailed about it.

Dc has behaviour issues so wont be amenable to the nasal spray. Tbh a jab may be better for her but doubt they would do it

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