Schools reopening 2

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I would also like to understand what is meant by 'at any cost'.

I do not believe it is worse for the child of a vulnerable parent to miss more school time than to lose their parent, or their parent to lose their ability to work.

So the Times have reported part of that report but nothing from the paragraph that Noble pasted. Funny that.

My mum has been sent an email saying when children return every window has to be wide open so the children have to wear coats in the classroom. My brother will find this hard as he hates wearing a coat he's 5. Has anyone else heard this? My DD school isn't doing this

[quote BKCRMP]@Myothercarisalsoshit my child hasn't got the communication to express herself verbally. If you are feeling threatened and handled against your will and you haven't got the means to communicate verbally then you respond in anyway you can. She's a young child. The adult ignored proven methods and directly did the explicit do not dos and a young child responded out of fear because she hasn't got the communication skills. So yes to an extent I do.[/quote]
I have to say as someone who has had this sort of role in mainstream, that provided the strategies for your dd were clearly and emphatically communicated to the member of staff then that member of staff does bear some responsibility for being bitten.
If they weren’t provided with the info and strategies then that’s a different matter and the fault lies with the staff who should have provided it.

How strange, piggy, that the government mouthpiece would neglect to mention the part where schools need more resources.

Baffling mystery.

that member of staff does bear some responsibility for being bitten.

On the other hand we could remember that even school staff are human and make mistakes in the heat of the moment instead of casting around and pointing fingers.

I’m sure that parents of children with SEN also have their badly dealt with moments at home that they’d rather not have scrutinised, despite being well aware of triggers.

In fact, I know they do.

Of course they are human, where did I say they weren’t?
If I didn’t follow a care plan that I was fully aware of then the resulting behaviour would be my fault.

Yes but words like ‘fault’ and ‘blame’ are thought-ending in what are actually incredibly tricky situations.

If the care plan wasn’t followed, then something to do with the care plan or system implementing it has failed.

If the teacher forgot the plan, then what needs to be done? Regular reminders? The plan pinned to her lesson plan?

If the teacher didn’t understand the plan then is more training needed?

If the teacher cannot reasonably be expected to implement/remember the plan due to conflicting needs in the classroom/hundreds of different plans...what then?

That’s really shitty can’t. I hope you’ve recovered?

I’m sorry that happened to you, cant, it sounds like you had done amazing work with this exceptionally volatile pupil.

When a pupil is that unstable, it is clear that ‘fault’ is an inappropriate word for inadvertently triggering a wildly disproportionate reaction.

Provide realistic guidance and substantial extra resources to ensure schools can minimise chains of transmission ( for example: parental guidance on when to keep their child at home applying the precautionary principle; rigorous hygiene; physical distancing and reduced mixing; extra teachers; PPE - including face coverings for teachers, older children and those with underlying heath issues; management of staffrooms; regular testing; and prioritisation for vaccines for teachers).

This sounds good. I have thought that about the vaccine and face coverings.

Well, teachers don't normally qualify for annual flu vaccines, so why would we for Covid?
"They" don't give a shit about our welfare.

My school organises free flu vaccines for its staff.

We almost got excited one year when we were offered the opportunity the same day they came to do the kids. But then it turned out they'd left the adult vaccines back at the office so we couldn't have them after all.
Not been offered since.

Staff get flu vaccines at my school.

But the school has to pay for flu vaccines, they aren’t free like for children or oaps - teachers aren’t prioritised for flu vaccinations by the NHS/government.

We don’t get them at my school-I wish we did.

The bbc news headline this morning was ‘Most people’ will be getting a flu jab this year, but on reading it, they are just making those over 50 eligible.

Do NHS workers get it free?

Does anyone know how much it is?

No flu vaccines at my place!

Isn’t it £15 ish at Boots? I’ve never had one

I was very surprised that we aren't on the flu vaccine list, surely with them wanting schools back full time teachers would be high priority - particularly considering flu symptoms are pretty similar to covid...

I can get one free because dh is immunosuppressed but in our county either the council or the Co-op pay for school staff to have one free every year!

Sorry, asked for my posts to be deleted - I was specific enough for it to be very identifiable (though tbh I think the experience of working 'successfully' long term with a very volatile pupil and then being blamed when something goes wrong on a single occasion is relatively common).

MH wise, I am ...OK. I have taught completely successfully since, but I am aware that I have a 'susceptibility' in terms of MH now.

If the teacher cannot reasonably be expected to implement/remember the plan due to conflicting needs in the classroom/hundreds of different plans...what then?

This is the crux of the matter. Too much us being asked of already overworked teachers and TAs then they get the blame if things go wrong.