[quote strugglingwithdeciding]@weepingwillow what the Eu ppe scheme which never delivered in time ?
And how about the WHO who advises not to shut borders ?
Lots of Mia information about at first
Yes There has been mistakes but hindsight is great , but nightingale hospitals being built and funded and other things being done are good , you can't knock every single thing without at least acknowledging something that was done right [/quote]
I am yet to see an evidence of anything done right. Even the Nightingale hospitals were an example of a misdirected resource especially when so many people were just left to die at home and covid patients were being sent back to care homes. For example
www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1860
'Just 51 patients have been treated at the 4000 bed medical facility situated in the refurbished Excel Centre in London’s Docklands since it opened. Nightingale units in Birmingham and Harrogate have not treated a single patient, while a facility in Manchester has had just a handful of admissions.
Charles Knight, the chief executive of Nightingale London, announced on 4 May that no more covid-19 patients were likely to be admitted to the facility. “As a result, after the last patient leaves, the hospital will be placed on standby, ready to resume operations as needed, in line with others around the country,” he said in a statement.
But some doctors have questioned the need for so much extra capacity.
One consultant, who works in mental health at a London teaching hospital and wanted to remain anonymous, said, “Was it a disproportionate use of funding and resources, given what’s happened in care homes, dementia wards, and prisons? The Nightingale hospitals might have been done for the best reasons, but there’s a danger that they’re going to be seen as white elephants.”
Richard Sullivan, director of the Institute of Cancer Policy at King’s College London, said that the government and senior NHS officials had overreacted to the media coverage of scenes in Italian hospitals and had been unduly swayed by “simplistic” modelling of the pandemic.
“The Italian doctors were intubating far too many people. That would not have happened in British intensive care units,” he said. “The trouble is that Neil Ferguson’s modelling was wildly exaggerated. You cannot rely on a model to predict what happens with a pandemic. There are too many variables.
“You need good local intelligence to work out what transmissions rates really are; this did not appear to have happened.”
Please feel free to share evidence of anything that has not been a complete shambles.