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The science has left the building (4)

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SouthWestmom · 25/05/2020 19:23

New thread inspired by Whitty and Valance exiting stage right today

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HeIenaDove · 27/05/2020 21:59

lol

Sam Coates Sky
@SamCoatesSky
NEW

Trace & test insider tonight told Sky News

  • Contact tracing at their level won’t go live tomorrow
  • They can’t yet input and receive data yet Cold face
  • They won’t start phone calls til next week

“Some have not even got their basic systems up and running

frumpety · 27/05/2020 22:00

I wonder if Dom ran away because he was scared, which is understandable in a way, if you have been privy to the worst case scenario science stuff and then you are caught up in a mini Downing street pandemic. All of a sudden your parents farm in the middle of nowhere looks like the safest place in the world.

A simple 'sorry folks, I bottled it' would have gone a long way to appeasing the masses, instead of the long drawn out ill when you weren't/ribena in a syringe / eyesight testing car journey bollocks.

mommydragon · 27/05/2020 22:13

I think Track and trace has been rushed just to take focus away from DC issue. Alternatively the T&T would've been more effective at the beginning of the lockdown when it would've been easier for people to isolate and to prevent the higher number of infections we were seeing few weeks ago. Now as they plan to open up the economy and send people to work, I see people constantly having to isolate as they may repeatedly come into contact with someone with suspected CV.

HeIenaDove · 27/05/2020 22:15

@mommydragon It wont take the focus away from DC when the cheeky hypocritical cunts are talking about sanctions and fines.

HOW DARE THEY!

Inkpaperstars · 27/05/2020 22:27

yes, I wonder how differently things might have gone if he had made a statement sooner saying I meant well but I fucked up, sorry. Maybe not that differently, I don't know.

Inkpaperstars · 27/05/2020 22:29

@HelenaDove

Good grief, did they, what timing! I watched but I genuinely couldn't even hear what Hancock was saying over the sound of my own sarcastic ranting.

WoollyMollyMonkey · 27/05/2020 22:39

Anyone struggling with childcare in a quarantine situation - there’s a remote cottage in Durham empty I’m sure you could isolate there. There are two girls locally who offer childcare available to help out. Just ring Downing Street and ask for Dom.

DuncinToffee · 27/05/2020 22:48

Sam Coates (Sky) tweeted this

NEW

Trace & test insider tonight told Sky News

  • Contact tracing at their level won’t go live tomorrow
  • They can’t yet input and receive data yet 🥶
  • They won’t start phone calls til next week

“Some have not even got their basic systems up and running”

HeIenaDove · 28/05/2020 00:01

Didnt take the DM long to revert back to type

twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1265775710586712067?s=20

kissmewherethesundontshine · 28/05/2020 00:38

This boils my piss as much as that weasel Cummings!!! How much is this costing the tax payer?! They expect us to isolate on the off chance we might have covid on £90 a week so they can pay for fucking front page news articles in their favour AngryAngryAngry

HeIenaDove · 28/05/2020 00:51

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-emergency-cash-poor-england-hotspots-conservatives-a9528371.html

Coronavirus: Poorer areas miss out as £100m of emergency cash diverted to richer Tory councils with lower infection rates
Exclusive: Anger as ministers strip out deprivation weighting from grants to ‘fight the pandemic’ – despite higher infection rates in poorer neighbourhoods

Poorer parts of England, many of them Covid-19 hotspots, have lost out on more than £100m of emergency cash, after ministers diverted it to richer – mostly Tory-run – areas, a new analysis suggests.

The government stripped deprivation out of its calculations, despite announcing plans for that switch had been shelved – and despite saying the money was to “fight the pandemic”.

As a result, Labour-run councils which lost big sums include Sunderland (£3m), Knowsley (£2.6m), Sheffield (£2m), Gateshead (£2m), South Tyneside (£2m) and Oldham (£1.1m).

All are among the 10 areas of England with the highest rates of coronavirus infections, according to official figures, and among the most deprived.

Yet, when the cash was announced, local government minister Simon Clarke said it was to recognise that councils are “the unsung heroes of the fight against Covid-19” and faced huge extra costs as a result.

It is intended to fund getting rough sleepers off the streets and domestic abuse victims into safe accommodation, as well as to help manage funerals and bolster frontline services; all tasks more onerous in deprived areas with more virus cases.

The biggest losses in percentage terms were suffered by Knowsley (38.8 per cent), Blackpool (37.4 per cent), South Tyneside (32.8 per cent) and Liverpool (32 per cent), according to the Labour analysis seen by The Independent.

All are among the five poorest council areas, according to the government’s official index of multiple deprivation, except South Tyneside, which is 22nd
In stark contrast, the 10 richest areas all enjoyed huge boosts in funding, including (Wokingham £2.2m, 83 per cent), Buckinghamshire (£4.3m, 41 per cent), Windsor and Maidenhead (£1.7m, 39 per cent), Surrey (£8.1m, 32 per cent) and Oxfordshire (£4.7m, 32 per cent). All have Conservative-controlled councils.
The Labour analysis follows a study by the Health Foundation finding that the risk of dying from coronavirus is more than twice as great in the most deprived areas of England as in the least.

Steve Reed, the shadow local government secretary, condemned the way funds had been allocated after ministers “promised to fund ‘whatever it takes’ to get communities through this pandemic”.

Now the government is cutting emergency funding for areas with the highest rates of Covid-19 infection and diverting it to areas that are suffering less,” he told The Independent.

“This money was earmarked for fighting Covid-19, so it must go to the communities that need it the most. Emergency funding should go to areas with the highest rates of infection.”

Steve Rotheram, mayor of the Liverpool city region, said its authorities believed ministers had “pulled the rug from under them”, after promising they would receive “whatever it takes”.

“Now it’s ‘take whatever you are given’ and it’s noticeable that it’s Labour areas that have missed out in the second tranche,” he protested.
“It is disgraceful if funding is being allocated in that partisan way, after what ministers said about putting away party-political squabbles in a time of national crisis.”

In total, more than £100m was diverted from councils in the bottom half of the deprivation index, when £1.6bn of emergency grants were announced in late April, according to the Labour analysis.

That is the difference from the allocations to each town hall from the first £1.6bn pot, handed out in March, which did include deprivation in the weightings.
The second £1.6bn tranche was awarded on a per-capita basis, raising fears in town halls – which still face an estimated £10bn black hole because of coronavirus costs – that the method will be used for future allocations.

The future downgrading of deprivation was signalled in the so-called fair funding review which began under Theresa May and triggered loud protests.

However, it is supposed to be on hold, until April 2022, after poorer areas that delivered Boris Johnson’s general election triumph were among those facing big cuts.

A spokesperson for the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government said: “We’re providing councils with an unprecedented £3.2bn in the fairest way possible and giving them the resources to tackle the immediate pressures they have told us they’re facing.

The two tranches of funding were allocated in different ways because they address different needs, but should be considered together as the true picture of this additional support.

HeIenaDove · 28/05/2020 00:53

Im beginning to see why they wanted to test the reaction of possible housing estate lockdowns.

effingterrified · 28/05/2020 05:19

The Daily Mail paid articles appear to have a dual purpose - spaff taxpayers' cash on pro Government propaganda. AND a taxpayer-funded bribe to the Mail to get them back on side, after they noticeably called for Cummings to go at the weekend.

Yes, that's shocking, banana republic stuff.

itsgettingweird · 28/05/2020 06:01

What's most shocking in all this is a supposed genius at being able to read people and capitalise on disenfranchised groups and their feelings really thought we'd buy

"I moved for childcare in case we both got Covid"

As an exceptional circumstance.

In the middle of a pandemic!

None of the other stuff really matters.

It's the absolute disrespect for the British public's intelligence and their own personal experiences that does it.

Nquartz · 28/05/2020 06:06

But people do believe it @itsgettingweird, that's what blows my mind. Or think they'd have done the same so it's ok (I've got some Tories on Facebook I have to resist arguing with who basically said they'd do anything for their kids so it doesn't matter that he did it).

Nquartz · 28/05/2020 06:09

Case in point, someone just shared a post from Eurosceptic News with the 'full story' so presumably she thinks it's believable and/or acceptable.

itsgettingweird · 28/05/2020 06:33

Mirrors headline today is

"Why don't you do your duty"

Nquartz · 28/05/2020 06:54

I'm glad Bojo etc aren't being allowed to just move on/forget it

itsgettingweird · 28/05/2020 07:14

It's ok though nquartz we've just been told if we move on and behave under track and trace then they may start to reopen pubs from mid June.

They really think we can be brought don't they?

They don't have any respect for us or any clue that we have intelligence.

Most of us haven't got through life with money and buying our way to get what we want.
It just doesn't wash imo.

Tavannach · 28/05/2020 08:05

m.youtube.com/watch?v=ijwiFP03hTk

Little bit of fun to start the day.

1forsorrow · 28/05/2020 08:16

Anyone else watch Matt Hancock on Sky, laughing hysterically, then big grins. It is all such a joke isn't it.

GrimmsFairytales · 28/05/2020 08:25

@1forsorrow

Anyone else watch Matt Hancock on Sky, laughing hysterically, then big grins. It is all such a joke isn't it.
Just like the Nandos tweet yesterday, they're so out of touch with everyone else. Sad
Cailleach1 · 28/05/2020 08:26

At the Committee, Johnson would have wasted less time if he had just stated what bits of speculation on DC's whereabouts were untrue. Instead he spent more time waffling on about how he didn't want to waste time on discussing DC. The only bit I can see DC didn't admit was a return trip to Durham. He couldn't deny the other things as he was seen.

SouthWestmom · 28/05/2020 08:30

Ive given up watching anything. Looks like Kier S is calling for us to move in, he can't see a point in carrying on.

Nothing about this meeting they all had on Tuesday.

No idea why MN do this weird fangirling of people like Matt H and Rishi S like they are a different breed before they've been in the job for five minutes.

So bloody disappointed to live under a government who can get away with anything and ride out the storm

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