The science has left the building (4)

[SouthWestmom]

New thread inspired by Whitty and Valance exiting stage right today

Boris doesn't look a happy bunny does he.

Couldn't resist

Off for a cheeky vino with Dom for the bank holiday

It seems now the government are wanting to open up almost everything except leisure activities.

Still no mention about expanding bubbles / allowing us to meet more than one person. That has to happen soon, surely.

I think we'll all be going to markets to meet friends/family.

Boris is sad that people FELT this way

The Priti Patel defence.

@GrimmsFairytales I would think do too after all these revelations.

I would love to hear the DVLA's views on someone who, suspecting their eyesight might be temporarily affected by illness, decides to drive.

Rather doing the responsible thing and waiting until sure they have fullly recovered.

He is going to need to open up opticians, and fast. Otherwise we will all be driving all over the place.

DVLA website states, in bold, with an exclamation mark "you could be prosecuted if you drive without meeting the standards of vision for driving.

Quiet true. Someone needs to tweet DS and ask if he's opening opticians to keep the number of cars on the road down!

This is out there now

Does anyone have a link?

To what?

Barnard Castle trip advisor is getting great reviews

Hasan Patel Rose
@CorbynistaTeen
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May 24
2 weeks ago a black man was tasered by the police in front of his terrified child for taking a “non-essential” journey but now the PM is telling us to trust the paternal instincts of Cummings? What the actual fuck

Ooh I'm not watching BJ but I'm not sure my post made the cut off from the last thread so I'll post my ramblings here...

Questions:

• Why did he return to Downing Street after being in contact with an unwell (?Corona ?vomiting) wife?
• Why if it was security concerns that meant he felt he couldn't self-isolate in his London home did he not just address those concerns? I am sure No 10/the police could have helped him with that as the latter would any other person who felt unsafe in their place of isolation. And if it was so unsafe then because 'people thought he was anti-lockdown' why was it safe 2 weeks later and has been since?
• If he didn't have immediate childcare in London why didn't they wait until it was a lot clearer they would both be incapacitated before enacting a back up plan? The guidance allowed for healthy people to travel to care for the vulnerable - his nieces/sister could then have come to him, no problem. Same risk to the niece either way.
• Why did he put his 4 year old in a car with two likely infectious people?
• What were the rules at that time regarding recently symptomatic parents accompanying children to hospital?
• If his vision was affected then he was still symptomatic, why was he considering going to work? If it was on advice of a medic (which he needn't have sought whilst symptomatic as the guidance was clear) why would he be cleared as safe to work but not safe to drive?
• If his parent's estate has so much private land why did he not individually drive around the property to test his fitness to drive? (still a stupid idea) rather than put his wife and child in the car and use public roads?
• Why did he not discuss this with Boris etc/the media earlier if he felt he had done nothing wrong? It hasn't just come To light now, journalists have been asking Downing Street about this for weeks.
• Why did he never apologise? Either he broke the guidance or the guidance was so badly written and communicated that parents across the land felt they couldn't move to seek help whilst ill just in case they needed childcare, causing thousands of families unecessary suffering.

Thoughts:
The original move from London to Durham is still enough for me to think he should have apologised at the very least. The damage to the Public Health message from defending it means he needs to resign/be fired and I actually think Boris should go now too, he's undermined the UKs response to a pandemic to save one man's job.

Feelings:
I feel dirty somehow, like I've played into a narcissist's game by giving this explanation my time an attention. The disdain for the intended audience is so breathtaking. Reverse engineering a fiction with plausible deniability and having the sheer self-confidence to think it will dissipate all the anger shows such little respect for us. To then say it's the media peddling mistruths that may affect public behaviour and not their legitimate reaction to his actions just sickens me. We're not stupid and desperate, convoluted waffling in a garden isn't going to change anything.
I think he wanted to have this statement and Q and A because he has such confidence in his abilities at manipulation. For an hour it was like I was in an abusive, gaslighting relationship where someone rewrites reality to get the outcome they want.

It changes nothing for me.

Oooh missed a question

• Where in the guidance did it say leaving the house to drive to test your eyesight was essential?

I can answer Schrodinger's questions.

He is specially special. The rules are whatever he says they are, therefore he can do whatever he wants to do without breaking the rules.

I will add:

How many patients with Covid was the local hospital treating at the time the 4 year old was admitted (with his infectious mother)?

How many patients with Covid was the local hospital treating at the time the 4 year old was admitted (with his infectious mother)?

I would be interested in this. She didn't have a test so could have been Covid positive. I know DC said his son tested negative, but he's 4 and I believe they're not testing under 5s when school / nursery return because the test isn't accurate for them.

Happy to be corrected if this isn't the case.

Also loving Beth Rigby and the other young female journalist. They have truly elevated their careers.

The females are bringing it to the table. That tired old hack Robert Peston needs to move along now. I can't stand that verbose, self absorbed fucker

The females are. Including the female PMs of other countries who seem to lead with dignity and respect.

How many patients with Covid was the local hospital treating?

Well as a North East resident on the border of Durham, it's been very interesting to note that my County has very low rates and Durham has very high rates. Not sure why... poverty was given as an example. Which is bullshit of course. It's a bit like the unanswered question as to why BAME people are so susceptible. Again, poverty and overcrowded households were given as a possible reason. All go to show that the government are making this all up as they go along. Whitty and Vallance will have left to preserve their integrity. That's right, integrity. A word used by our PM with no concept of what the word actually means. Despite his Eton education.

"The females are bringing it to the table"

Hell Yeah!