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Cummings and Goings (2)

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SouthWestmom · 23/05/2020 23:24

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StealthPolarBear · 24/05/2020 14:09

Oh dear what poor school got him?

ListeningQuietly · 24/05/2020 14:10

PLEASE
email your MP if you have not already

I assume Rousette has Julian I don't do email Lewis for their MP
in which case, ask the County Councillors to contact his PA.
Make EVERY elected Tory rep in the country realise that without compliance there is no control

itsgettingweird · 24/05/2020 14:11

With the current situation and DS stance does anything think they, or even DC himself, would be so bold as to try and sue the papers for slander?

Gronky · 24/05/2020 14:12

GrimmsFairytales

This is part of the reason why this will fizzle out with no lasting change. As with the media scrum this morning (entirely absent of social distancing) there seems to be more interest in grabbing the attention of readers/viewers with content which quickly moves on to the next headline. I think Cummings should be held to account but cheap tricks just undermine the credibility of the media more than they do the target.

StealthPolarBear · 24/05/2020 14:12

I'm finding all the abbreviations very confusing, DS, DC all mean very different things ftpm normal

user1495884620 · 24/05/2020 14:15

StealthPolarBear I got stuck on DS earlier. Spent ages sitting here all puzzled at who on earth DS before the penny dropped!

StealthPolarBear · 24/05/2020 14:18

Yes I keep thinking foreign secretary, who is of course DR.
We need code names - boffle, Corona Cummings (in the style of typhoid Mary), Grape Schnapps, Matt Scapegoat etc

Roussette · 24/05/2020 14:22

This article from New Statesman has it spot on.

www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2020/05/if-dominic-cummings-not-sacked-boris-johnson-s-government-will-lose-all?fbclid=IwAR1Ne_5ffC66PWTMWTYmwl3ZTftHgCr1BjOqjMuVR6GERm4K2FYHm9ihnfo

'Johnson cannot sack him because he would be helpless without his svengali. He cannot keep him because his government would lose all its remaining credibility as it battles Covid-19. Cummings made Johnson.
Without him, the Prime Minister would be like a dummy without its ventriloquist, a puppet without its puppeteer.
Under no other prime minister in living memory would Cummings be allowed to stay in his post, but this scandal has ripped the mask off this government’s face. It has exposed its true nature – its shamelessness, its arrogance, its deceitfulness, its contempt for “the people” that it claims to champion, the utter cravenness of its ministers.
Cummings himself has displayed not a jot of contrition, He has mocked suggestions he might resign in a manner that suggests the Prime Minister has no say in the matter.
Locked in Downing Street, Johnson seems to have lost his fabled common touch. He seems not to grasp the blazing anger that Cummings’s conduct, and his government’s reaction to it, has unleashed – not just among yesterday’s Remainers but among lifelong Conservative voters and those blue-collar, traditional Labour voters who backed Johnson in such large numbers last December.
Johnson is like a man caught in a quicksand. The more he flails, the deeper he is sinking into the morass, squandering public trust and sympathy. The public might forgive his incompetent handling of coronavirus, but not this egregious lying and hypocrisy. Sooner or later he will have to sack Cummings. The longer he dithers the worse he and his government will be damaged.'

The80sweregreat · 24/05/2020 14:23

Matt scapegoat!!

He must be so depressed. He has to get the three T' s ( test track trace ) up by Monday week! Without any help from anyone at all if Dom gets the push? He will be paler than ever.

NudgeUnit · 24/05/2020 14:28

We need code names

Rhona Cummings? Grin

SouthWestmom · 24/05/2020 14:29

I vote for DRab

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NudgeUnit · 24/05/2020 14:29

I reckon everyone in government except BJ (and perhaps Govey) will feel more relaxed if Cummings goes actually.

Belindabelle · 24/05/2020 14:30

I wondered last night if there was any sightings of Mary Wakefield going to visit her parents at Chillingham which is about 1.5 hours from Durham. This could be the story they are holding back for tomorrow.

It would seem likely that she might visit as Mothers Day, Easter and her 45th birthday all occurred whilst she was in the area. Maybe she went to see them with the child and DC returned to London alone before going back up later on.

I mean imagine if Mary was your child and she didn’t come to see you with your grandson after travelling all the way from London.

Apparently there is photographic evidence of DC’s car at Barnard Castle.

SixesAndEights · 24/05/2020 14:30

New Statesman article is spot on!

I expect they're having a leisurely Sunday lunch at the moment, and Cummings will come out of Downing Street and tell the press to fuck off as he's not going anywhere.

mrsspooky · 24/05/2020 14:32

I feel sorry for Matt & Rishi, I was glad Jenny Harries skillfully dodged the question yesterday and im really glad Chris Whitty hasnt commented. Boris & DC are bringing down the government themselves and its such a shambles. They dont need to sack him they just need to say they are sorry and stop treating us like idiots.We can see he was in the wrong but we all do things wrong, we just don't make a big shamble of lies to try to cover it up. Wish they'd just admit it and say the lockdown was needed all along and not that we just misunderstood it!

SouthWestmom · 24/05/2020 14:33

However, I think the NS article linked is really true - this will be like pulling a thread and exposing holes or leaving a patch of slowly unravelling cotton.

How to justify the mandatory tweets yesterday? Clearly they thought they could pass it off as a silly storm in a teacup and reframe it as a loving dad doing what he could and should.

But that omitted the published, clear guidance; the lying article implying they were in London; the thousands of dead who died alone - surely sitting at the bedside of a dying 13 year old is a safeguarding issue if we are stopping that low?

The straw man arguments - no one implied looking after your wife and child was a crime in the first place. However if I looked after my son by robbing the bank to pay for his care needs that would be a crime.

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SixesAndEights · 24/05/2020 14:33

With the current situation and DS stance does anything think they, or even DC himself, would be so bold as to try and sue the papers for slander?

No. There'll be evidence. You don't run with a story like this unless you've got that.

GrimmsFairytales · 24/05/2020 14:33

Apparently there is photographic evidence of DC’s car at Barnard Castle.

Oww where did you read that?

Schrodingerspeanutbuttersandw · 24/05/2020 14:33

Loving the nicknames and that New Statesman article.
I saw Steve Baker on Marr this morning and it's still made me depressed though. Saying Corona Cummings should go because it was wasting political capital and he wasn't that important to Brexit anyway. Ultimately it might be Tories that dislike him for another reason that gets him gone but why can't he be gone because what he did was wrong. Not because he's using up too much political capital or whatever but because he was in an important position of responsibility and did something unjustifiably wrong.
I think Matt Hancock should go too. The fact he wants to keep his job is not more important than what is job as Health Secretary actually is FFS. Helping one man keep his job over the health and wellbeing if the country, not acceptable for someone in his position either.

itsgettingweird · 24/05/2020 14:33

Corona Cummings like Typhoid Mary. Grin

SixesAndEights · 24/05/2020 14:35

I feel sorry for Matt & Rishi

They made their choices. Personally I could never feel sorry for a Conservative.

(Real tragedies not withstanding just in case anyone wants to go down that road...)

itsgettingweird · 24/05/2020 14:35

Yes I was impressed with Jenny yesterday. Made it very clear there would, of course, be circumstances it would actually be silly to blindly follow the rules. Then said like "extreme risk to life". Refused to say any of her comments related to the case or if she thought extreme risk to life related to Corona Cummings.

mrsspooky · 24/05/2020 14:36

No Matt shculdnt go, poor guy has been abandoned by Boris to do the whole lot!

Roussette · 24/05/2020 14:37

I think his position is now untenable.

When you get Tory MPs speaking out, how can you unite the Party? This is costing the Government dearly. How can they wheel out Minister after Minister every day saying the same message 'Stay at Home' or similar, whilst this debacle is ongoing. It makes me want to laugh in their face. How dare they tell people what to do when you have the most Senior Adviser in the Party breaking all the rules and I think people forget... it was at the most critical time ever. When it was drummed into us. We hadn't reached a peak, we were teetering on the edge of compromising the NHS. They cannot play the public for fools.
It's not going to just go away.

GrimmsFairytales · 24/05/2020 14:38

Anyone else watching the Scotland briefing?

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