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Cummings and Goings (2)

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SouthWestmom · 23/05/2020 23:24

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MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 24/05/2020 12:56

It won’t be one of the big hitters

Please donate your spare consonants.

PaneerOfEvil · 24/05/2020 12:57

Presumably Grant Schapps has already hit the booze?

PaneerOfEvil · 24/05/2020 12:57

*Shapps, sorry. Alcohol clearly on the brain!

The80sweregreat · 24/05/2020 13:00

Grant was sighing inside at Marr today. He knew it wasn't going to be great so he tried desperately to bring it back to the roads that Mr Cummings and co had used to get to his lovely second home! He loves these roads so much. He loves bike vouchers and trains.
Why can't they talk about my love of transport! Why indeed!
He is hurting inside.

NudgeUnit · 24/05/2020 13:01

Shapps needs to borrow Melania's 'Help Me' sign if he's going to do many more of these interviews.

LarkDescending · 24/05/2020 13:01

Grant: Ask me about the roads!
Marr: OK. Did Cummings stop at services on his road trip?

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GrimmsFairytales · 24/05/2020 13:03

LarkDescending

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Music101 · 24/05/2020 13:08

Yes I thought that was very funny too. Shapps - I came on a transport minister - and Marr immediately referring to Cummings’ “transport” of himself to Durham.

Brilliant.

itsgettingweird · 24/05/2020 13:08

I'm not the only one asking out darling attorney general awkward questions. I emailed. This is written on her FB page.

Someone asking if after her defence she can explain how his actions were in convention of the government instructions.

Someone has said "as a politician your hypocrisy is sadly predictably staggering" they have gone on to say as Attorney general - defending someone who broke the law makes her position undeniably untenable.

Someone else asking that as attorney general and seemingly non pulsed about the law will she be getting refunds to all those fined? They asked if gaslighting the public was the new normal position of the party.

The exact wording can be found on her Facebook page - I'll happily admit I'm paraphrasing and pulling out the main points.

PerkingFaintly · 24/05/2020 13:15

Thing is, the data horses have already bolted. Well, some of them.

Under Cummings, this government has already signed contracts to hand over wodges of our data to companies like Palantir and Faculty.

Vote Leave AI firm wins seven government contracts in 18 months
www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/04/vote-leave-ai-firm-wins-seven-government-contracts-in-18-months
Faculty is working at the heart of the government’s response to the pandemic. It has been processing large volumes of confidential UK patient information in an “unprecedented” data-mining operation alongside Palantir, a US firm founded by the libertarian billionaire Peter Thiel.

The above data-processing has been part of the Coronavirus response, but Cummings has been after govt-held personal data on UK citizens from the moment he got through the doors of No 10.

There have been various soothing noises made, that these Big Data companies aren't allowed to use our data except for coronavirus purposes or with our permission. But we've seen just exactly how much respect for the rules Cummings and his friends actually have – from the Cambridge Analytica scandal to this weekend's revelations.

Cummings seems to work on the basis of: "Will I get away with it?"

Followed by: "And if I don't get away with it, will I get away with it anyway – because what can they do to me?"

So... this is an area where it might make quite a big difference whether he has an official position or is just the voice in Johnson's ear down a phone line. But it's also an area where much of the damage may already have been done. Don't know.

itsgettingweird · 24/05/2020 13:17

My ds has just had me in hysterics. He was a victim of knife crime many years ago. He's just asked if now, he can walk around with a knife to defend himself and when stopped and questioned say it's for "safeguarding". He was being tongue in cheek and laughing but the sad reality is that this may have actually put the same idea into peoples heads that do think they need to carry knives. They've been given that legitimate reason for this defence. They are exceeding their common sense where there was actually a real risk to life.

LarkDescending · 24/05/2020 13:18

Yes this is about much more than what the Cummings household did or did not get up to.

It’s about a parade of senior ministers lining up to gaslight the nation.

It’s about a PM sending them out to do it, with the balls, integrity or leadership to step up when the going gets tough.

JudyCoolibar · 24/05/2020 13:19

Which poor sod is going to do the presser tonight?

I suspect s/he will pull a quick sickie. Though if the cabinet had any balls they would all go on strike and tell Johnson it's solely his mess to clean up.

MsSafina · 24/05/2020 13:19

Kinnock Jnr. drove from Wales to London to visit his parents in London and sit in the front garden. I'd expect him to resign too.

mrsspooky · 24/05/2020 13:20

Its all just so sad! They just need to say they are sorry and only human and cocked up because they so wanted to see their families instead of making such a joke of the last few months for the rest of us, everyone wanted to see family, lots of people will have done it but to go back and say it was all ok and we are the stupid ones for misunderstanding the rules is just completely horrible. Complete loss of trust now, we cant believe anything they say, why cant they just admit they make mistakes and it would have all blown over! The betrayal isnt the visiting of parents (and spreading it), its the denial they were wrong. It just makes it all so sad and looses all respect and credibility.

macaroniandpizza · 24/05/2020 13:21

Its clearly one rule for us mere peasants and another one for the "gods" that are politicians...

janet1267 · 24/05/2020 13:22

MsSafina Stephen Kinnock, and I think he was wrong to do what he did, didn't have Coronavirus. There is a huge difference.

mrsspooky · 24/05/2020 13:23

Johnson should do tonight and apologies for it all and take it and stop treating the public like idiots. His cartoon on R was insulting but this is just rude. We know people make mistakes, we know we were right not to see our families, we do not want to hear this nonsense they are now coming out with, its a complete shambles.

DuncinToffee · 24/05/2020 13:23

MsSafina like Jenrick?

SouthWestmom · 24/05/2020 13:24

Gold

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Roussette · 24/05/2020 13:26

More and more tory MPs are coming out against DC

And someone has posted elsewhere a reply to their emails asking if she could go and visit her mother given that the lockdown rules are now open to personal interpretation. He was very embarrassed to say 'No, you can't, but I can quite understand why you are asking this and our job has just got a whole lot harder because of all of this. And that the Arbiter will be the Cabinet Secretary and that he is deeply embarrassed at what is going on' etc.
I presume this is a Labour MP!

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Roussette · 24/05/2020 13:27

Ten Conservative MP's have now broken ranks and called for DC to go

merrymouse · 24/05/2020 13:29

The betrayal isnt the visiting of parents (and spreading it), its the denial they were wrong.

Exactly

Roussette · 24/05/2020 13:30

Which poor sod is going to do the presser tonight?

I think the majority have been told 'do another supportive tweet or you're on tonight'
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GrimmsFairytales · 24/05/2020 13:30

Ten Conservative MP's have now broken ranks and called for DC to go

I wonder how many we'll be on by the time briefing comes around, it's at 4pm today, right?

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