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England the only country that dissects and criticises everything the government say or do?

196 replies

Whatsthis1515 · 11/05/2020 07:21

So many other countries have schools back, various shops etc etc open.
Do you think people living in those countries also were up in arms when told they could return, dissecting and slagging off everything said?
Everyone here seems to think lockdown should either last forever or until September. I'm not quite sure what September will bring that June can't

So just wondering, is this criticism unique to England or do other countries do the same? I can't help but feel the people of England are so negative

OP posts:
DateandTime · 11/05/2020 11:41

If course they did and of course they should.

The ability to speak up and criticise those in power is the difference between a democracy and a dictatorship.

bellinisurge · 11/05/2020 11:55

I imagine the people who don't walk, drive or cycle to work are those "other people " who we don't need to worry about, eh?

B1rdbra1n · 11/05/2020 12:01

As said power corrupts and so it is our civic duty to hold those in power to account
Are you really suggesting that criticizing the government is a bad thing😮

bellinisurge · 11/05/2020 12:29

Here's some fucking common sense from that shit for brains Dominic Raab . That the government has had to backtrack on.

"If you're out in the park and you're two metres apart, we're saying now, and use some common sense and you socially distance, you can meet up with other people," the foreign secretary said.

What a stupid knobhead

Smileyoriley · 11/05/2020 12:29

Absolutely we should criticise and dissect as we see fit and of course people in other democracies do the same- what on earth makes you think otherwise?

MamaKarmaLlama · 11/05/2020 12:31

B1rdbra1n Totally agree.Ridiculous to suggest we should all be meekly accepting decisions make from above and not continually questioning and scrutinising. Very worrying view.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 11/05/2020 12:34

Yes there was criticism in Denmark. But mostly from people who are especially vunerable. But guess what, having a competant leader who actually leads and communicates clearly avoids a lot of deaths infections confusion anxiety fear doubt and criticism.

bellinisurge · 11/05/2020 12:37

Raab - thick as pig shit
Patel - see above.
Sunak - wait until he has to tell you he's not giving you money
Johnson- sexually incontinent liar.

Let's trust them to do what's best for us, eh?

Bollocks to that.

Iwalkinmyclothing · 11/05/2020 12:42

Now seems a good time to remind everyone again that Raab was surprised by the extent to which this island nation depended on its ports for trade.

Please bear this in mind when listening to anything he says.

Floatyboat · 11/05/2020 12:46

I think people on Mumsnet can often struggle to rationalise and are often not open to solutions or answers not immediately within their knowledge/experience. That inevitably makes you prone to criticize. The amount of people on here who refer to "safe" as an absolute, easy to define, concept is quite depressing.

Napqueen1234 · 11/05/2020 12:48

I agree it’s so tedious. The government are by no means perfect but they are in unchartered territory and do seem to be doing their best. As many people are crying for relaxation of the rules as they need to get back to work and see families (which I completely understand) as those calling for months and months of lockdown which isn’t practical. They can’t win. We just need to get on with whatever they say as ultimately they are in charge (and were voted in democratically).

InglouriousBasterd · 11/05/2020 12:49

But why shouldn’t people complain? Surely that’s the benefit of living in a democracy. The MPs are elected by the people to do their bidding - if they don’t, people complain. Like in any other job Confused

I’d be horrified if people didn’t question a death rate of over 30000. Why shouldn’t we?

I’m thankful I live in an place I can exercise my right to free speech and question governmental action. Unlike those who live in places like China, N Korea, parts of the Middle East.

B1rdbra1n · 11/05/2020 12:58

They work for us!
We appoint these people to run the country for the benefit of the population, we need them to do it because we are busy working, participating in the economy, creating the social fabric.
They are not our overlords, they are our servants
we need to stop behaving as if we are thier subjects

bellinisurge · 11/05/2020 13:01

It's not about refusing to support a Tory government. Or government at all. It's about pointing out how fecking useless this shower is. As evidenced by their own incompetence.

DoubleTweenQueen · 11/05/2020 13:03

Floatyboat - exemplifying her own point

mondaynoon · 11/05/2020 13:06

I've heard that in China people are much more careful about criticising the government. Maybe you could move there OP.

NiteFlights · 11/05/2020 13:15

The government are by no means perfect but they are in unchartered territory and do seem to be doing their best.

And it’s okay to say that their best isn’t good enough. It’s okay to say that the cabinet is stuffed with Brexit yes-people, rather than the best, most experienced, most capable ministers.

It would also be totally fine to say this if, for example, Labour were in power and the cabinet had been chosen for personal loyalty to Jeremy Corbyn.

‘Doing their best’ when their best is actually pretty shit just doesn’t cut it, really.

Alsohuman · 11/05/2020 13:28

MPs are back already. Most of them remotely

That’s not being back, it’s wfh.

MamaKarmaLlama · 11/05/2020 13:37

‘Doing their best’ is the most hilarious thing I’ve read on Mumsnet for a while.

VerityB1 · 11/05/2020 13:39

Being politically aware and aware what has/is happening in other countries and agreeing or challenging or seeking information is not being nit picking. It might not do a person any good, but surely better than living in ignorance ... or maybe not... ... ...

DoubleTweenQueen · 11/05/2020 13:40

I don't see the need to be actively supportive? They have their majority, their Brexit, their wealth. Nothing I say would make a blind bit of difference. I am not a lefty.

ChaBishkoot · 11/05/2020 13:41

If Boris’ speech yesterday was an example of a government doing its best then my god, we have really really low standards for our elected representatives.

B1rdbra1n · 11/05/2020 13:51

Of course they are doing their best
doing their best to play fast and loose....

Tootletum · 11/05/2020 13:52

You should see how much the German press is moaning. It's kind of hilarious to watch really.

B1rdbra1n · 11/05/2020 13:54

Better than living in ignorance
Is it 'better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied'?
🤔