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England the only country that dissects and criticises everything the government say or do?

196 replies

Whatsthis1515 · 11/05/2020 07:21

So many other countries have schools back, various shops etc etc open.
Do you think people living in those countries also were up in arms when told they could return, dissecting and slagging off everything said?
Everyone here seems to think lockdown should either last forever or until September. I'm not quite sure what September will bring that June can't

So just wondering, is this criticism unique to England or do other countries do the same? I can't help but feel the people of England are so negative

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Floatyboat · 11/05/2020 13:55

@DoubleTweenQueen

Explain sorry

MarieQueenofScots · 11/05/2020 13:56

Aren't the abilities to question, discuss and even hold the government accountable essential tenets of democracy?

Iwalkinmyclothing · 11/05/2020 13:56

We just need to get on with whatever they say as ultimately they are in charge (and were voted in democratically).

Shock

Did you post that with a straight face? Please tell me you were being sarcastic. Please.

bellinisurge · 11/05/2020 13:57

My dd "does her best" changing her bed or making me a cup of tea. I praise her for giving it a go.
I expect a slightly higher level of competency from senior members of the government.
Like Raab being able to explain government policy.
Or Patel being able to read numbers aloud.

A slogan you have to explain is a shite slogan. Basic rule of marketing.
I'm alert to that.

Floatyboat · 11/05/2020 14:02

@MarieQueenofScots

Absolutely. But there is a difference between that and nitpicking at a time of crisis. Eg one poster complaining that year 2 is not being prioritised etc

bellinisurge · 11/05/2020 14:29

A poster talking about year 2 is not nit picking. It's obviously high on their list of priorities because it's their child and they are discussing it in a parenting forum.
"Bojo is stopping me getting my fanny waxed" is nitpicking.
" Why is my child's class not going back to school yet?" is a reasonable question

Floatyboat · 11/05/2020 14:31

@bellinisurge

Unless they bring all years back at the same time some years will come after others. Surely people understand government policy is not based on any one individuals circumstances.

MarieQueenofScots · 11/05/2020 14:41

Surely people understand government policy is not based on any one individuals circumstances

Indeed, but its reasonable surely to expect an explanation as to how the decisions are reached.

"We think R and Yr1 over Yr 2 and 3 because X".

But then I'm not convinced transparency is the Government's strong point given the PM and SoS had given conflicting advice by 8.25am this morning, then the SoS had to clarify his own comments Grin

Derbygerbil · 11/05/2020 14:48

I can't imagine anyone would have had any complaints in New Zealand for example but why would they?

I bet quite a lot of people in NZ will be complaining their restrictions are far too strict given virtually no cases, let alone deaths.

Floatyboat · 11/05/2020 14:48

I think some decisions are arbitrary and there is no magic explanation, but you still need to start somewhere. But yes I agree the communication of the message has been very muddled. Even allowing for a prime minister who's main priority is keeping people happy.

Gfplux · 11/05/2020 15:08

@Napqueen1234

“Doing their best” is a term used when a Netball or football team of nine year olds are losing badly.
Not about a democratically elected Government.

bellinisurge · 11/05/2020 18:00

@Floatyboat , I get that obviously. The point I was making is that the question (which I didn't pose btw) is not nit picking. By common agreement (even Philip Scofield!) the whole thing has been badly explained .

Floatyboat · 11/05/2020 19:04

Yes it's been explained badly overall. Worrying about year 2 versus year 1 is nitpicking imo.

Astressedmumoftwo · 11/05/2020 19:10

People SHOULD challenge the government.

MamaKarmaLlama · 12/05/2020 09:58

It isn’t just how the government has mismanaged it all, it’s how woolly Boris Johnson is. He fails to put his point across in a clear, concise manner. He rambles incoherently and doesn’t make sense. Hardly inspiring confidence.

DoubleTweenQueen · 12/05/2020 10:32

I hope we get information as to why equipment and technology was not taken up from established chains of supply, but contracts given to private companies with seemingly no previous experience? With what seems to be loss of crucial equipment available immediately which then went out of UK; loss of supply of equipment through EU scheme; loss of crucial time and millions of pounds on substandard kit/equipment/technology/services eg testing logistics and supply ?

MamaKarmaLlama · 12/05/2020 10:33

I doubt we will get any answers. He’s thrown the working class under a bus.

DoubleTweenQueen · 12/05/2020 10:41

And most other people who work

JustAnotherPoster00 · 12/05/2020 10:50

I bet quite a lot of people in NZ will be complaining their restrictions are far too strict given virtually no cases, let alone deaths.

Its almost as if there's correlation there, weird that, well good luck herd, if youre not wealthy enough to be self sustaining and isolated then being starved back to work is the way the English government are dealing with this pandemic

So those of you are saying we should not criticise the government even after 30K deaths, when should we criticise then? After 50K, 100K, 500K or just never criticise them at all?

toolatetooearly · 12/05/2020 11:03

I think it's important criticise, question and nitpick the government, of any politcial party, at every opportunity. Even if you think they are getting it right today, they probably won't be next week.

B1rdbra1n · 12/05/2020 11:03

Those of you saying we should not criticize the government
to be fair I think it's only the OP who holds that view, and hopefully even she has now seen some merit in the other side of the argument!

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