People living in tourist spots should probably be concerned right now.

[MonkeyToesOfDoom]

Now that Boris has said people can drive for exercise and leisure, you know they'll flock to seaside's, lakes, peaks, etc.
Which means if they're carriers they'll be spreading the virus to petrol stations pumps, gates, railings etc.

I don't get the logic behind him saying that tbh.

The infection rate in the community is so low at the moment. I don’t know what happens in small towns, but surely if not enough ventilators available a patient would be transferred to the nearest big hospital, by helicopter perhaps?

I live in Cornwall. The main issue is the distance many people live from the few hospitals, plus the fact that if numbers of people increase significantly those hospitals will be under strain, for any reason be it CV or accidents etc.

There are plenty of arguments currently raging down here between locals regarding things like going surfing etc (and therefore potentially putting yourself in harm’s way/putting a strain on the NHS and so on), so it’s not just ‘the tourist’ getting it in the neck.

I think it will be second-homers coming down in the next few weeks, those that can now move about freely and work from home, and are not reliant on non-existent holiday accommodation or public toilets (all toilets near me are closed atm). They are going to put a strain on supermarkets most probably, there won’t be anything else for them to do but shop for food and eat it!!

Someone mentioned takeaways etc, none are open round here presently, though I think the chippy in the next town is going to open soon, or just has.

I agree, I expect the SW will soon have its 2 nd peak now as it's managed to avoid a full on 1 st peak up to now as everyone flicks to Cornwall Devon and Dorset thanks Bojo!

I don’t like Cornwall, I don’t understand the fascination unless you are into surfing. It’s always windy (and raining), the towns aren’t that nice and the countryside inland is nothing special. There are some nice beaches but there are too many people on them. The Eden project is just a big greenhouse. And you have a nightmare drive to get there. There are lots and lots of places I’d rather go in the UK. And I like UK holidays

@MMN123

Twelve. Out of 41 million a year.

We'll be ok.

You're the only one missing out here, particularly given that a staycation boom has now been predicted.

I do feel sad for you that you are so easily upset and as a result are missing out on our awesome counties but as I said before, the kind of tourists that take such easy offence under the circumstances are not really the kind of people we want here.

Enjoy your trip.

A PP said maybe the lockdown changes should be regional and I agree - we’re in Cumbria and just had too many cases in this area. Really serious cases and deaths (described on other threads and I think upthread). Other areas though don’t seem half as bad? It just seems awkward to have people come to the area when we really are still burying loved ones and have loads in this valley/villages alone who still can’t kick it after 6 weeks. It does make me cringe seeing people out (even though it’s allowed!) because somehow it’s hurtful. No one means it to be, you just don’t want to say “please don’t use the footpath by so and so’s house, they just lost their dad to it” and so on... we’ve started putting up signs but it feels a bit silly. We’re being sensitive about restrictions lifting because we’re still dealing with the fallout of this, and know how bad it can be, and don’t want to have to explain this to everyone who comes by...

I miss normal life so much, but I am terrified more will get C19. Our area is so rural and looks so idyllic, but we’re riddled and still trying to get rid of cases. Seems wrong to then welcome people in and potentially infect them? I don’t know, this is just so depressing

They want people to go to work, not continue to be on furlough. If the hotels etc are closed they won’t have anywhere to stay unless the have a holiday home?

Emmet is Cornish for ant.

stclair

You're more likely to be put in an ambulance to travel hours to the next hospital, and you'll be charged towards the cost as the health board will only fund treatment locally, regardless if your local facility actually can treat you.

Air ambulance very rarely used due to cost and being funded by donations.

@Becca19962014 charged by the NHS that we all pay for?

Just to repeat... if you come to the Lakes, at least please please don’t use footpaths that go through people’s homes. There are so many paths on the fells and through fields. You don’t know the health status of the home you’re passing through - and you don’t know if they’ve had or still have C19.

Please be kind and hope to see everyone soon!! (When it’s safe.....)

But they won’t be able to stay .

Why would people drive miles for exercise .

He made it clear , just for excercise . Not socialising .

It’s not rocket science

@Notmyrealname855

Is there any idea why such high cases out of interest ?!

I live in an area where tourists flock to at this time of year. I also work in s supermarket here. We have already seen many people who quite openly tell us they are on holiday here....now it will get worse.

I wish they would fuck off home. Selfish pricks.

@supermanisdead

I will, thanks!

As I said, my family hail from Devon. I’m not easily offended at all. I have always preferred the Peak District and the Lakes and North Wales and Inverness personally in terms of landscape and interest. But always did trips to the SouthWest too, partly because of the family connection. My great aunt hated visitors coming to her town and always implied everyone else there did too but I thought she was just being peculiar. But this episode has made me realise she wasn’t - she was clearly just Normal for Devon.

And I’m sure you will survive. Plenty of people won’t care if they are welcome. Probably the same sort you all complain about, who arrive with their food from London and spend nothing locally. Good luck with that!

@Samtsirch

Down here in the forest. We call them grockles!!!!!

But they won’t be able to stay .

Why would people drive miles for exercise

He made it clear , just for excercise . Not socialising .

It’s not rocket science

People travel miles for exercise all the time, Pre Covid at least. Look at Snowdon, you think everyone thy goes up lives nearby or goes to stay? Course not.
Leave at 6am, drive a couple hours, hike for the day, Couple hours home. I've done it many many times.

Hi Susie :) well... seriously some people here are obsessive about trying to figure out how it happened. We had some from the local town go to Cheltenham (eek), we have travel to Carlisle for work, we have obviously lots of (lovely) tourists.... that’s maybe how it got in. Then spreading... we have very active community groups, eg our choir and church groups have been fucked to be honest, high mortality rates there... also an older population. When I say older, I mean 50+... we’ve had seriously healthy people in their 30s and 40s absolutely cut down by this and still barely making any recovery after 6 weeks. It ruins their mental health too and we don’t know the long term effects.

It really has beaten the community, people are tired and been hit hard.

Just seen this mobile.twitter.com/cumbriatourism/status/1259558579356545035

@MonkeyToesOfDoom

Grockles are people who come to visit. But don't live here. Tourists.

Oh monkey. You're post has cheered me up. I've loved everyone of your answers!!! Brilliant !!!!

I agree with everything you've said. I live near w tourist spot. On Saturday it was rammed! That was BEFORE lockdown was even said it might be eased. So I've. NO DOUBT it will be horrific now

Yes, very worrying. The rules about unnecessary travel have not changed in Wales, but people coming from England won't know this.

I’m in the west of Cornwall, on the coast. I’m not too worried about an influx as yet that will put us in danger. Everything is closed still, so there’s nowhere for anybody to stay/visit, and our roads are so crap that it takes hours for anybody to drive through Devon and across Bodmin to actually reach us. That’ll put day trippers off.

The real question will be what happens when the hospitality trade re-opens. It would have to be carefully managed in Cornwall, so as not to wreck everybody’s chances at recovery and survival from coronavirus in our tiny hospitals. I would personally like to see hotels and restaurants re-open, but with a continued emphasis on social distancing, so half the amount of bookings as usual, for example.

It will be nice to be able to go to the beach and other areas of natural beauty again though, and be able to stay and sit, and enjoy them a bit more. As somebody who doesn’t rely on the tourist trade at all, so in a privileged position in Cornwall at the moment, I have thoroughly enjoyed the experience of taking walks around my home town in this gorgeous weather, but without the tourists crowding round. Probably not something I will ever experience again in my lifetime.

"I don’t know what happens in small towns, but surely if not enough ventilators available a patient would be transferred to the nearest big hospital, by helicopter perhaps?"

Let's hope so. In Italy they were making decisions on who would be 'worth' giving a ventilator to. My friend who is a GP was given training on the tranquilisers to give people who would have to die because there was no ventilator for them.

Sorry didn’t mean to post so soon :) It feels a bit like we’re forgotten... but even the tourist groups just don’t want to risk tourists coming back. Our hospitals and GPs aren’t cut out for large numbers, we don’t know how a second wave would affect those who already have it (a friend who’s 38 is worried it’ll kill him). In the meantime yes we’ve had rule breakers from outside which is just really heartbreaking... including during a friends funeral, people out for a walk from outside the Lakes staring in, couldn’t stand it and they were haughty when moved on. It’s bad people who very clearly break rules and they’re obviously the hardest to deal with :(

I honestly can’t imagine packing up my family and going off on a day trip at the moment. I can’t understand why people would do it.

"But they won’t be able to stay ."

They'll be going to their second homes.