People living in tourist spots should probably be concerned right now.

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Now that Boris has said people can drive for exercise and leisure, you know they'll flock to seaside's, lakes, peaks, etc.
Which means if they're carriers they'll be spreading the virus to petrol stations pumps, gates, railings etc.

I don't get the logic behind him saying that tbh.

Yeah it's shit but we do have nicer views

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Like many things this will all depend on how people behave. If someone from Preston drives to the Lakes for the day with a picnic, gets straight out of their car, walks up into the hills, spends six hours walking on the high fells and then drives straight home I can't really see how they will have spread the virus. They probably won't come into contact with anyone.

Obviously there aren't any pubs/cafes open right now for them to use and the only shops open are food shops/pharmacies.

Currently a lot of car parks and toilets are shut which would make things more difficult but maybe at some point they will re-open with some modifications/limits on numbers using them.

The other issue would be if someone is injured while walking and the impact on Mountain Rescue Teams.

Tweet from South Lakes police.

twitter.com/SouthLakesPol/status/1259607891025281025?s=19

During a pandemic people simply need to stay close to their homes to help stop the spread of infection from area to area.

Still hoping for a regional lockdown continuing here now, we'lll have a horrific continued peak/second wave over the summer and be looking at a longer, harder local lockdown in to the Autumn otherwise.

This thread has made me reflect on what it was like to be a native of a tourist destination.
In its heyday, Margate was a major tourist town. It was about the nearest town to where I was brought up.
I don't remember any local name for tourists, disparaging or otherwise.
We welcomed the work and the buzz that they brought with them.

Because of visitors, I had the most fabulous childhood and teenage years, with so much to do and see, like famous bands and shows, funfair, coffee bars, discos, shops, you name it.
Of course, there were downsides, like being evicted from your flat every spring, for the holiday trade, but these were offset by plenty of seasonal work and a new boyfriend every fortnight...
As an adult with with children, the facilities were still great.
It was sad when package holidays led to Margate's decline (along with many other seaside towns) I'm glad it’s having a bit of a revival now and I hope it continues, with more Covid inspired staycations -

• but not yet

I'm apprehensive that the curve will rise again, with everyone interpreting the gov's ambiguous words as the go ahead to resume travel and crowds..

The other issue would be if someone is injured while walking and the impact on Mountain Rescue Teams.

Also Coastguard and RNLI. According to Telegraph water sports are now allowed.

lakeswimmer

I actually agree, if people are sensible, it's not as big of an issue. But... People aren't sensible.
Let's say your Preston visitor forgot water. Pops into the local shop. Picks up a bottle of smart water, changes their mind, puts it back and takes Lucozade.
A local then wants water.. picks up the smart water and drinks it, then goes home to his care worker wife, who then goes to work..

Yes it's a daft and OTT situation, not likely to happen, bit it's not beyond possibility.
That's before you even think about paths that are small in the hills, people passing eachother, cyclists sweating and breathing hard as they cycle up hill. Joggers breathing hard at rest stops as walkers pass.

It's all a big question mark still. One that I don't think the government has an answer for and i also dont think just allowing everyone to travel where they want is the solution.

I heard this too - tv news about 10-14 days ago said that 15000 people were arriving in uk daily by air. I was v surprised

Toffeeyoghurt said thousands and thousands of flights, not people but I very much doubt it

Toffeeyoghurt Reduced number but flights are still arriving daily. Thousands and thousands over lockdown

@Giggorata, I feel this way too. I live in Cornwall, in a definite hotspot for tourism. Most people on here seem to be ignoring my comments regarding tourists-that is, that in my experience Cornwall welcomes visitors. My friends and fellow villagers and beyond in the industry (I’m not working in it myself) are devastated at this turn of events.

However, most people on this and other threads seem to want to believe the opposite, people do love a scrap I suppose.

As for the word emmet, again, my points have all been ignored. I’ve been around this place for over 50 years and have been referred to in this way on the odd occasion. No offence taken by me. It’s really no big deal.

It's all a big question mark still. One that I don't think the government has an answer for and i also dont think just allowing everyone to travel where they want is the solution.

It’s the norm not a solution.

I forget who was prattling about using rural folks notnuosng urban supermarket and cafes and all that bollocks..

Why is it bollocks? You're the one who wants segregation. If that's what you want then why shouldn't it work both ways?

Not sure why I would travel from my nice rural area to use shops and shizzle in a more urban area? That makes no sense. Or do people think that "Rural = No shops", cafes, pubs... And whatever else it was theu listed whilst punching their keyboard..

Judging by the amount of people in my local supermarkets stripping the shelves just before lockdown. I disagree that you use your own village shops.

Possibly spreading the disease to areas it wouldn't otherwise get too.

Are people seriously this naive about the virus? They think it cant get to them if they just keep pulling up the draw bridge? Guess again. Sooner or later, It will find you.

lakeswimmer - yes, exactly. But tbh there's nothing to stop people injuring themselves in their local area and needing emergency services. I'm not sure we're really about to have a rash of people falling off Striding Edge just because people are allowed to drive somewhere for a walk.

Poor SLDC police :( our mountain rescue team has been busy - it’s not just rule breakers, locals can be idiots too :)

I posted this earlier, but even the Cumbria tourism board is worried about visitors... mobile.twitter.com/cumbriatourism?lang=en

We needs positive steps forward, but Boris needs to recognise areas with concentrated C19 cases, just dispiriting

In England, Boris has completely sold out those of us living in daytripper destinations like the coast and National Parks. There was already a high level of concern and some anger before last night's announcement because of all the covidiots ignoring the guidelines, but now he has made things much worse for our rural and seaside communities. Our residents, mountain rescue volunteers, emergency services, hospitals, minor injuries units, care homes, councils and small shops do not want visitors at this early and still dangerous stage of the pandemic. Not because we are unwelcoming, but because it is not yet safe.

Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland have got it right with their continued Stay At Home message. They are protecting their rural and coastal communities. Boris has got it wrong. It would have been slightly better if he had at least said 'stay in your own county to exercise', but instead he has just opened the floodgates. I think he has done it because he wants to be popular, and as a future vote winner, but in rural and coastal communities he has shot himself in the foot - and us - and we have long memories. Like key workers without PPE and all care home staff and residents, we are just collateral damage as far as this government is concerned.

@GinnyStrupac Why would Boris worry about rural and coastal communities? They mostly return Tory MPs whatever the Government does.

You're the one who wants segregation.

Am I? Did I post that somewhere last night? Don't recall saying so. Maybe you could highlight where I did?

Like key workers without PPE and all care home staff and residents, we are just collateral damage as far as this government is concerned.

Yes it's exactly the same.

I agree op, I live in a tourist spot and it's very worrying. I'm most worried about tourists using our one shop and nothing being left for the residents - especially elderly ones (of which there are many) who can't drive.

Also, the car parks are shut, so the narrow streets will be lined with cars and socially distancing on pavements will be difficult.

People who don't live in such places don't think about the logistics and consequences for permanent residents.

Am I? Did I post that somewhere last night? Don't recall saying so. Maybe you could highlight where I did

You want "emmits" (urban people in general?) or whatever the inane term is, to be separated from rural people in general. You want strict border control, implemented by law enforcement, between urban and rural areas

Is this correct or not?

You want "emmits" (urban people in general?) or whatever the inane term is, to be separated from rural people in general. You want strict border control, implemented by law enforcement, between urban and rural areas

Where did I say any of this? or where I refer to people as Emmet's or urban people.
I think you're reading a different thread than this one.

Im from live in Cumbria, 20 min drive from a larger town and the lake district national park. Im worried about people coming and Cumbria police have been doing their best to keep people away. My town has a fair at the beginning of June and even though its been cancelled I'm worried that people will chance it and try to come up anyway.
I hope it gets clarified

danidella
I also live in Cumbria and despair about what I'm reading in various on line forums with regard to everyone rushing out to national parks / tourist hot spots.

Clarification given - 'People may drive to outdoor open spaces irrespective of distance'.

I despair.

After being restricted for weeks, of course people will return to these tourist/beauty spots, mostly day trippers. Not much you can do about it