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People living in tourist spots should probably be concerned right now.

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MonkeyToesOfDoom · 10/05/2020 19:51

Now that Boris has said people can drive for exercise and leisure, you know they'll flock to seaside's, lakes, peaks, etc.
Which means if they're carriers they'll be spreading the virus to petrol stations pumps, gates, railings etc.

I don't get the logic behind him saying that tbh.

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ErrolTheDragon · 11/05/2020 01:37

And cities across the UK (including London) are also tourist spots. Very busy ones.

Are they at the moment?
In normal times we like wandering around a city, wouldn't dream of it for the foreseeable ... for the same reasons we won't be heading to the lakes for a day out.

VerticalHorizon · 11/05/2020 01:49

Allowing widespread travel is going to confuse the numbers when there's an outbreak in the Lake District, or rural Cornwall... it would have been far better to restrict travel to better keep a close eye on the patterns in each area.

Now it's going to be harder to deduce if an outbreak in rural town was because of spread from within that area, or one brought in from the City where someone fancied a day long 'workout' in a picturesque rural park.

There would have been nothing wrong with opening up local parks, and keeping travel to within your general postcode (first 2 digits).

Knowing that even in the stricter lockdown a percentage will break the rules, I fear a far larger percentage will abuse these new freedoms and we'll pay a heavy price for it.

Flaxmeadow · 11/05/2020 01:52

This is scarily naive OP

Possibly spreading the disease to areas it wouldn't otherwise get too.

ErrolTheDragon
I was being facetious. I find this whole "not in my backyard" thing nauseating.

As someone pointed out earlier. What about those in urban areas who haven't been outside their high rise flat for months. Haven't seen a tree, or walked on the grass, felt the fresh air in their lungs.

So OK then, dont come in our urban supermarkets for your special food purchases and to stock up. Eat pot noodles and boring potatoes from the village shop. Stay away too, if that's your attitude

Easilyanxious · 11/05/2020 01:54

@TheSandman there were people saying on other posts if England has less strict lockdown they would go there ie to visit tourist spot etc
I still will be very surprised if we don't find out tomorrow that the travel for exercise is limited by certain amount of miles as I believe some other places do this already

ToffeeYoghurt · 11/05/2020 01:57

Errol Reduced number but flights are still arriving daily. Thousands and thousands over lockdown. No Keep Out signs at the airports.

Despite Boris's muttering there's still no checks or quarantine of any kind.

In the run up to lockdown hundreds of thousands flew in. 18 million in total for January, February, and March. Obviously including the many many people returning infected from ski holidays.

If people have to go back to work (whether the infection rate is low enough or not) presumably many will commute into the cities. And back home....it's as likely to be a local infecting rural areas as a tourist. More so possibly. Many tourists will drive. The locals will be commuting on public transport.

Flaxmeadow · 11/05/2020 02:00

Thousands and thousands over lockdown

Passenger flights? Do you have a source for thousands and thousands because I've watched flight radar a few times and there hardly seems to be any planes taking off an landing at all

VerticalHorizon · 11/05/2020 02:10

They'll struggle to truly police quarantine from flights, maybe make an example of a few to scare the rest.
But it also seems that will kill business flights (unless there's dispensation). So tourists are unlikely to come if they're locked down for 2 weeks, and business won't come cos they only wanted to come for a day or two... so who is left? family visits... those folks MIGHT adhere to quarantine if staying with their families, but now many are going back out to work... they'll spread the newly imported Spanish Corona...

I thought the government started off really well with their handling of the crisis, but they seems to be making a real pig's ear of it now.

ToffeeYoghurt · 11/05/2020 03:50

www.google.com/amp/s/www.mylondon.news/news/west-london-news/london-coronavirus-government-still-wont-18148146.amp

I'm about to go to bed. Can't find what I read earlier but a quick Google shows Matt Hancock estimates around 15,000 a day arriving. That was two weeks ago at the height of lockdown. No checks or quarantine. Apparently the government refuses to say who all the passengers are. They claim 'most' are repatriation but importantly won't say what percentage. It's also irrelevant. Other countries impose mandatory quarantine on all incoming passengers.

Reduced numbers yes, but rather makes a mockery of any pretence over protecting people living in large airport cities. Yet rural tourist spots have road blocks stopping one car (perhaps the cars are carrying some of those passengers from the airport).

transformandriseup · 11/05/2020 06:33

emmits? Is that a derogatory name for tourists? You won’t be so bloody smug when no one decides to visit in the future!

To be honest most places which attract large numbers of visitors have a word for then, it's not always meant nastily. Emmit like another poster said has been around for a very long time.

abitoflight · 11/05/2020 07:17

Flaxmeadow
I heard this too - tv news about 10-14 days ago said that 15000 people were arriving in uk daily by air. I was v surprised

VictoriaBun · 11/05/2020 07:36

With regard to people saying carry on keeping your social distance and wash your hands.
Do you really think trees will be chopped down/ hedges cleared back on narrow footpaths to allow the distancing and of course , sinks to be supplied every 200 metres - just supply your own soap and towel !

VictoriaBun · 11/05/2020 07:42

I've just taken this from covidlive website :

2062 cases, approximately 413 per 100,000 people. Data from gov.uk, May 10th.
Cumbria
Before people decide to come here, perhaps they'd like to check their area out, you'd probably find out we are much higher in numbers than you.

bellinisurge · 11/05/2020 07:44

I went to Dunham Massey just before the lockdown. It was mobbed. Loads of pinch points with people trying and failing to keep 2m from each.

olivesandolives · 11/05/2020 07:47

*Welsh and Scottish police have already said you will be fined if caught over the border. Do not come here
*
This really made me laugh for some reason. NONE SHALL PASS.

I can't see anyone driving 4 hours to go to a place where no cafes or shops etc are open. I'm relieved I can go a little bit further to some different parks maybe.

EffOrf · 11/05/2020 07:49

Raab just said to go where you want within the nation but to comply with the rules of the nation.

leckford · 11/05/2020 07:49

Surely if you go to beaches/countryside there are few facilities open and nowhere to stay? Even if you have a camper van the sites are not open. OK if you have a holiday home.

Hopefully the Airbnb craze is dying so there will be more places for locals to rent/buy

Imakeyworker · 11/05/2020 07:50

We’re in Cornwall. We said straight away that the emmits will be on their way.

Every time I hear someone use this expression I think WTF.

I absolutely agree that tourists should stay away from tourist towns, the coast, National parks etc. but why do people from Cornwall insist of using this term?
Many people rely on the tourism industry for their income.

I feel the same about 'Grockle.'

BTW, it's EMMET, not EMMIT.
Learn to spell your own insulting slang word ffs.

yearinyearout · 11/05/2020 07:55

People are still not allowed to go on holiday, and given that the cafes and toilets, and most car parks, are closed, I don't think there will be many people travelling from hours away.

If you're lucky enough to live half hour away from a beach or the lakes and can enjoy a walk there for a couple of hours without needing any facilities, good for you I say. We will be driving to walks for a change of scenery but will stay within half hour of home.

EffOrf · 11/05/2020 07:56

Drive as far as you want says Raab if there is a place you are fond of.

Wint3randSummer · 11/05/2020 07:59

Everywhere is closed, Hope people check facilities before they flock. We’re surrounded by beaches but can’t park in any.

Bossycat · 11/05/2020 08:03

Cumbria has been doing more testing from very early on particularly in the south of the county and so has picked up cases that wouldn't be picked up elsewhere. However I still think it will be irresponsible for people to be travelling for hours to visit us or anywhere else for that matter. I hope people will wait a bit longer until the numbers have dropped more.

supermanisdead · 11/05/2020 08:08

Facebook surfing boards now full of threads of people packing up camper vans and heading to the SW. some threads with hundreds of replies.

No campsites open but plenty of lay-bys/on road parking around.

As far as I know, advice on going in the sea has not changed from 'dont' and there are no lifeguards on duty.

MonkeyToesOfDoom · 11/05/2020 08:11

BTW, it's EMMET, not EMMIT.
Learn to spell your own insulting slang word ffs.

Actually, Emmet, Emit and Emmit are all accepted variations of the same thing. Maybe you should have a look up of that before correcting others.

I forget who was prattling about using rural folks notnuosng urban supermarket and cafes and all that bollocks..
Not sure why I would travel from my nice rural area to use shops and shizzle in a more urban area? That makes no sense. Or do people think that "Rural = No shops", cafes, pubs... And whatever else it was theu listed whilst punching their keyboard..
We've actually got a lovely local shop, run by a pair of locals, it's very much a local shop for local people.

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Imakeyworker · 11/05/2020 08:21

Actually, Emmet, Emit and Emmit are all accepted variations of the same thing. Maybe you should have a look up of that before correcting others.

Acceptable because people can't spell and have got used to it.

refusetobeasheep · 11/05/2020 08:23

This whole post is so depressing. The othering of other people is frightening. How quickly we pull up the drawbridges and hate outsiders. Early on in this, someone fainted on the other side of the road. I was the only person who went to help. You can pull up your drawbridges all you like, but what a shallow world you will live in as you fail to have any empathy for those different to yourselves.