How do I stay calm when so many either have coronaphobia or are enjoying lockdown too much?

[awaywiththecircus]

Out for a walk last night and saw a neighbour who’s furloughed. She took pleasure in saying what a great time she’s having and hoping things carry on like this for a lot longer yet. She doesn’t think she should go back to work anytime soon as she has to meet people face to face and she doesn’t want to catch it. She’s in her 30s, slim and white.
Get back and speak to SIL who won’t be sending dnephew to school if they open in June ‘because children are dying too’ I’m getting so annoyed at the attitude of so many stupid people and it’s like banging my head against a brick wall. I feel like I’ve lost all control of my life and it’s going to carry on forever. Does anyone else know what I mean?

[Macaroni46]

I get where you're coming from OP. It's like a parallel universe.

[sleepingpup]

because the old and ill may get virus and die is fucking madness

The old - what's your cut off there?

The ill -diabetics, asthmatics and all the other people who live with managed conditions ? Who do not expect to die any day soon?

BAME population who have a higher risk?

HCP who work with virus victims?

It's not only the 'old and ill' you complete snake. The old and ill are real people too. Hello Captain Tom Collins.

And 30,000 maybe "a tiny number compared to our population size"

But it's still shit and that was with lockdown.

You're not from Michigan are you?
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[CaliforniaMountainSnake]

The scientists will advise the government and the government will decide and maybe they will choose wisely and maybe not but it won't be based on your opinion or anyone else here.

That is simply not true. The gov care about votes more than anthing. They are more likely to follow public opinion, and then try and change the public opinion through media manipulation to what they want.

The gov don't want to go against the majority because if it goes tits up or people arnt 100% with the outcome (which they won't be, they will be losers no matter what path we take) the gov will be blamed for going against what the "scientists" advised and what the public wanted.

[sleepingpup]

@CaliforniaMountainSnake

[BeltaneBride]

Totally agree with you OP people have lost the plot. They didn't hear the message that the lockdown was to prevent the health service being overwhelmed and assumed it was to stop anyone catching it. I had it and agree it is unpleasant being breathless, but four years ago I had whooping cough -that was a far worse experience, more frightening and lasted longer ( typically whooping cough lasts 40 days.

[FourTeaFallOut]

I get where you're coming from OP. It's like a parallel universe.

I can't tell if that's a joke or not 😂

[TheOwlandThe]

@Redolent

I think thats my post you are referring to. Thats not actually what I said, and you know it.

I didnt insist. I said in my opinion.

I was using my experience to demonstrate that the virus is not something to laugh at just because you are a young white woman, and that someone being scared wasnt stupid.

At least if you are going to mention my post quote it so people can see your misrepresenting what I've said.

[MrsWhites]

I can’t understand the criticism of people enjoying lockdown, surely they are just making the best of the situation. Them wishing to be furloughed for longer won’t effect the governments final decision so it won’t effect you.

Nor do I think we should criticise those suffering and not enjoying it, unless of course they are blatantly breaking the rules.

People will always deal with a situation like this differently to others, yourself included OP. You have used this thread to voice your opinion in the same way as the two people you mention in your original post have.

To be honest I’ve swung from thinking lockdown is great some days to thinking it’s awful the next!

[notreallybotheredaboutausernam]

"It's their perceived entitlement to stay furloughed that annoys me"

Wtf are you talking about?? I was furloughed. Didn't ask for it. No choice in the matter. Yes, I'm enjoying it. Wish it could last forever, but it can't. I will go back to work when my company asks me to. Everyone furloughed is in the same position, our companies decide when we can go back and as mine has no work at the minute, I can't, even if I was desperate to. Why the hell does me enjoying sitting in my garden offend you so much? Yes, maybe I am lazy but my company furloughed me, not my choice, not my choice when I go back.

You've really annoyed me with this furlough-bashing. Jealous and pathetic.

[Cherryblossomsnow]

You need to accept that people have different situations and views rather than stating people are stupid. What do you know really about coronavirus except that we don't know a lot really do we? If you were in the position to keep home schooling for a while and there is no economic impact for you or anyone else by your actions then what is 'stupid' about that?

[DianaT1969]

OP - are you going out to work? How are others on furlough affecting you?

[Bramblebear92]

Being furloughed actually isn't always as good as some people think. I'm furloughed, but due to the way they've worked it out I'm receiving closer to 50% than 80% of my wage. If I hadn't been able to get family support, I'd have lost my home and starved under the furlough scheme. So I imagine it's actually pretty shit for some.

[SinisterBumFacedCat]

You come on to say people furloughed our entitled. Like fuck is this not a furlough bashing thread.

[SinisterBumFacedCat]

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[The80sweregreat]

Furlough was brought in by the government so you can't blame people for taking some money and praying that their job is still about in June ( or whenever) for them to continue.
Maybe the chancellor should have told the weather to be cold and rainy for 3 months..
Everyone is an armchair critic when it's not them running the economy or the country. What was the govt meant to do?
As it is many in hospitality are already unemployed , but that's all ok as they can have a burger in the garden!
Unbelievable.

[MrsWhites]

Also lots of furloughed people know that when the government wraps up the furlough scheme (I.e. tourist/entertainment related industry workers), they will likely be made redundant in many cases so who can blame them for enjoying receiving the majority of their wage for now!

[Dozer]

“The fearful” are not the reason for the measures being taken.

The issue is tens of thousands of deaths due to covid.

[awaywiththecircus]

The gov don't want to go against the majority because if it goes tits up or people arnt 100% with the outcome (which they won't be, they will be losers no matter what path we take) the gov will be blamed for going against what the "scientists" advised and what the public wanted.
This is exactly what I'm concerned about and fear that Them wishing to be furloughed for longer won’t effect the governments final decision so it won’t effect you. is not true, along with the parents and teachers wanting schools shut seemingly forever. Which is why I am finding it hard not to feel annoyed with them because I'm afraid their views will have a huge impact on me and my family. If not I really wouldn't care.

[DianaT1969]

OP I don't think you are being rational. The people I know on furlough are likely to be laid off next month without redundancy pay (employed less than 2 years). I know 2 youngish single people with mortgages and 2 parents 40+ with mortgages. They are not dictating government policy.
Have some empathy. You've posted a series of angry OPs about this. Furlough bashing isn't helpful. It's interesting that you don't say why it affects you so much.
Presumably it's because you want schools to open? Teachers aren't furloughed.

[awaywiththecircus]

It was wrong to use a furloughed person for an example. I’m not furlough bashing I also have friends likely to loose jobs and houses. It’s just people with the attitude I’ve stated above.
Anyway I’m not getting anywhere so this is all a bit pointless.

[Poppinjay]

You should be angry at those people who are giving all furloughed a bad name.

How does one give all furloughed people a bad name?

[Voice0fReason]

Covid 19 is not scary. It's a virus that is mild for 80% of the population and even the vast majority of those badly effected will still recover.
By those statistics, Russian Roulette isn't a scary game because most people live.
I'd rather opt out of playing thanks. And by me refusing to play means that I am not forcing my immediate family to play.

[happyandsingle]

No one chose to be furloughed ffs.We had no choice.Some really jealous bitter people out there.

[happyandsingle]

I'm sure some ppl would of much rather the current ppl not working out begging for food instead of being furloughed it would of given them a sick satisfaction.

[awaywiththecircus]

IT’S NOT A FURLOUGH BASHING POST