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A vaccine is very likely to happen

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FreierFall · 29/04/2020 13:57

I've worked in big Pharma for years. I am 99% sure an effective vaccine will be produced this year. It's gonna happen, have faith in scientists. They will be working their butt off....

"Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla told The Wall Street Journal the company's COVID-19 vaccine could be ready for emergency distribution by the fall. The company could further be ready for a broader rollout by the end of the year, he added"

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ErrolTheDragon · 29/04/2020 15:24

But I thought we'd never managed a coronavirus vaccine (common colds?) or something ?

There are several successful Coronavirus vaccines, for various animal infections (eg kennel cough, I think there are horse and chicken ones too). There are too many types of 'common cold' - many caused by rhinoviruses not Coronavirus - and they're not serious enough to have ever warranted the development of vaccines.

ErrolTheDragon · 29/04/2020 15:25

And development of a vaccine for SARS was well underway but it was brought under control so the work didn't need to be completed.

FruChoc · 29/04/2020 15:25

This is very heartening to read. It's hard to see the light amongst the grim death/infection tolls, graphs and commmentary. Thankyou

NikeDeLaSwoosh · 29/04/2020 15:27

I'd rather take my chances with the disease than a rushed-to-market vaccine.

The (fairly well established) chances of me and my family being seriously affected by the disease is vanishingly small, whereas the vaccine would be a total unknown.

JustSew · 29/04/2020 15:32

I clicked on this and expected it to be all doom and negativity. How nice to have some hope and optimism.

I'll be at the front of the queue with my sleeve rolled up. In fact they could experiment on me if they want someone with a nice long list of underlying health conditions.

ErrolTheDragon · 29/04/2020 15:32

Even with all the resources being put into this, I'm sure supply will take quite a long time to meet demand so hopefully it will be allocated on the basis of need and lower-risk people like you will be well down the priority list, Nike. So it won't be a 'total unknown' by the time you're able to get it.

TheClootieDumplin · 29/04/2020 15:33

Im pro vaccination but I wouldn't have one that's been produced in such a short time as a reaction to COVID.

TheClootieDumplin · 29/04/2020 15:34

I'd rather take my chances with the disease than a rushed-to-market vaccine

Yes. And the two medics in my family have said they won't be having it either. I trust their judgement.

Glittercandle · 29/04/2020 15:35

I’m wondering if it will be a live vaccine. Many of the most vulnerable have suppressed immune systems which means they shouldn’t have live vaccines.

MarshaBradyo · 29/04/2020 15:38

All the vaccine news has been a bright light each time. I know there’s no guarantees but it has been encouraging.

YippeeKayakOtherBuckets · 29/04/2020 15:39

I am Legend, Children of Men, 28 Days later. Do people learn NOTHING from the genre?

FruChoc · 29/04/2020 15:40

@JustSew spoke too soon! Doom and gloomers have arrived... along with a hefty dose of anti vaxxers...
Sigh...why we can't have nice threads...just let us dream /be hopeful folks!!

ErrolTheDragon · 29/04/2020 15:40

I’m wondering if it will be a live vaccine

Everything I've read says not.

ErrolTheDragon · 29/04/2020 15:43

I am Legend, Children of Men, 28 Days later. Do people learn NOTHING from the genre?

Afaik these are fiction not ever likely to qualify as peer-reviewed science so ... no, people probably do learn little of value from these except a warning that shit might happen so a well-stocked cupboard is wise. Grin

JustSew · 29/04/2020 15:44

@FruChoc Grin Here they come.

Sunshinegirl82 · 29/04/2020 15:45

If you don’t want to have it then don’t have it. Simple no?

Certainly the Oxford vaccine will not be live, the way it is being produced means it can’t be.

Clutterbugsmum · 29/04/2020 15:45

Whether or not a vaccine is successfully made,is only a part of the solution. And I would want to know what corners are going to be cut so they can rush the vaccine out.
The production of the individual vaccine doses is another story. How long will it take to make enough doses for the millions of people to make any difference. Where is the additional manufacturing process going to come from. Will each country make the vaccine for it's own population. How and when are they going to give out and in what order of people will get them.

All of these need to sorted before vaccination goes ahead.

SociallyDistantHeadcase · 29/04/2020 15:48

I'll be having it. I need to get back to normal. I have underlying health conditions and am a prisoner in my own home and worried sick for me and my family. The last few weeks have been intolerable.

ErrolTheDragon · 29/04/2020 15:49

And I would want to know what corners are going to be cut so they can rush the vaccine out.

The shortcut is doing different stages concurrently which would never usually happen for commercial reasons. In particular, manufacturing millions of doses knowing that if the trials fail either safety or efficacy they'll be binned. The Times link below may answer some of your questions.

TheClootieDumplin · 29/04/2020 15:51

@JustSew spoke too soon! Doom and gloomers have arrived... along with a hefty dose of anti vaxxers...
Sigh...why we can't have nice threads...just let us dream /be hopeful folks!!

You're being ridiculous if you think anyone who wouldn't chose to have this vaccination is an anti vaxer.

And if you only want what you consider to be a nice thread then perhaps you need to have the title of the thread changed to - only people who are in support of this particular vaccine need post.

Aposterhasnoname · 29/04/2020 15:51

This whole “we haven’t got a vaccine for the common cold” thing that’s rolled out every time vaccinations are mentioned amazes me.

Why, in the name of everything holy, do people think that the limited resources and researchers that we have would spend their time trying to find a vaccine for something that’s largely a minor inconvenience when we have cancer, and many other life limiting conditions that need research. It beggars belief.

For the millionth time, it’s not that they can’t find a vaccination for the common cold, it’s that it’s just not worth it!

GoldenOmber · 29/04/2020 15:52

All of these need to sorted before vaccination goes ahead.

No they don’t. Vaccines can get rolled out for emergency use in the short term while these bigger questions and full regulation get sorted. Then you can vaccinate a limited number of people, most at risk like eg clinicians. Happened with an Ebola vaccine not long ago.

foxychox · 29/04/2020 15:52

Why would corners be cut to produce it? The primary flu vaccine manufacturer has offered their production lines and with the number of times they undergo regulatory inspections in a year I sincerely doubt that they cut any corners.
Thanks OP for a more positive thread - there are some truly gifted scientists working on this (lots in the UK!) and it is about time that people gave them the respect they deserve.

CathyandHeathcliff · 29/04/2020 15:53

I’m not anti vaxx, but I really don’t want this, as I feel it’ll be rushed out. I don’t want my DS to have it either. Just my opinion though.

Sunshineonarainy1day · 29/04/2020 15:54

Realistically by time they have it and then the 6-12 months it takes for the entire country to receive it, everyone will have been exposed by then anyway as lockdown will end way before that