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[SimpleKindofLife]

New thread for those having longer symptoms of Covid.

@user34254356 I have had a runny tummy in the morning for a while, then the nausea joined and now the stabs all over my tummy are awful today.

Hi guys, some really good news here. I think this may be the best thing I have ever and may ever read in my whole life!!! I really hope that the more we learn the more this proves true! If anywhere in the world is an expert on this disease it's Korea and they are an open honest democracy (in so much as that exists) so I trust them as much as I'd trust any information from a western democracy. More so on this as they were so well prepared that they are not trying to hide their governmental shortcomings behind misinformtion.

Relavant part: "The committee ruled out reactivation of COVID-19 as a reason for relapses and said there was little to no possibility that reinfections would occur due to antibodies that patients develop.

“The process in which COVID-19 produces a new virus takes place only in host cells and does not infiltrate the nucleus. This means it does not cause chronic infection or recurrence,” Oh said."

newsinfo.inquirer.net/1266758/tests-in-recovered-patients-in-s-korea-found-false-positives-not-reinfections-experts-say

@alittleprivacy that is good! I really wish we had a government and system that were as well organised and honest. I'm hoping then that the virus is entirely gone and won't come back. Anything now is just post viral stuff that takes time to heal

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Catching this bloody virus again is one of my main fears. If that is unlikely to happen then I will be SO relieved.

Excellent find @alittleprivacy

Hi, I just came on to post the news article but @alittleprivacy I see you have already done it, thank you. Nice to have a bit of good news.

That's really reassuring @alittleprivacy!

The PCR tests cannot distinguish whether the virus is alive or dead, he added, and this can lead to false positives

So why are some people on here getting negative tests, surely the test would pick up the dead virus cells still? Although that's based on a small number as we're not doing enough or any kind of consistent testing to really test that theory. But a negative test certainly suggests that they are not contagious anymore.

I wonder if the virus is dead in us now, but our body is detecting a threat still and then our immune system is in overdrive trying to attack it?? A bit like hayfever with histamines?

That makes me feel strangely reassured!

@SimpleKindofLife
@alittleprivacy

This is the most reassuring thing I've read
Once this fucking thing has gone IT WILL BE DEAD AND MY BODY WILL EXPEL ITS ROTTING VIRAL CARCASS THE DOOR.

I will be dreaming of the day I can go back to my beloved silks. I am going to do the world's highest music box and fastest spin.
It will happen.
It will.
I just need to ride it out and be patient.
And keep ringing my GP every week in case there is something that will help.

I'm honestly so happy after reading that. I have had so, so many fears about a chronic illness that would keep coming back and eventually kill me at 60 or something. And even worse, I'm 99% sure my DS caught it from me, so the thoughts of it remaining in him and hurting him more and more over the years was like a fucking nightmare. In my head I knew it was very unlikely that the virus would be like that, but it wasn't impossible so it was a constant fear.

I know we still have a ways to go in terms of both full knowledge and our individual recoveries. But this is the most positive news I've read since the virus became known (apart from the Jan 15th bullshit about China saying there was no human to human transmission - the bastards!). I won't pretend I fully understand the significance of what they are saying about viral replication in host cells and non-infiltration of the nucleus but if they are saying it means no chronic illness or immediate reinfection, I'm just so happy personally because I'm finally confident that I will get better. And socially because it means a vaccine is completely possible. Woo-hoo!!!!!

Ha ha! Love it! It will @Crayfishforyou it will!

Maybe our bodies have already beaten this, they just don't know it yet! We're just in a confused post viral immune system fog!

We'll get there people

Hi all

I'm still in hospital still waiting for my COVID results. I've been told that if it's positive I can go home as they will understand the cause of my breathlessness and high white cell count. I am on doxycycline and co-amoxiclav.

If the test is negative I will need a CT scan of my lungs and if that is clear then tests to check my heart,

They said even if it's clear it doesn't mean I haven't had it. It could be the virus has stopped shedding (it's been 5 weeks) or is no longer in my throat/nose. It could be I am just left with residue inflammation.

I will be dreaming of the day I can go back to my beloved silks. I am going to do the world's highest music box and fastest spin.
It will happen.
It will.

It absolutely will!
And I will do my sub 2 hour marathon (on skates, I'm not delusional).
I will get my axel jump!
And I will do the best fucking handstand on a halfpipe anyone has ever done in my local skatepark!!!!!

Probably not in 2020 as was my New Years goal.
But one day!

P.S. I don't know if anyone else is finding this but this post keeps on disappearing and losing my bookmarks, I have to keep searching for it!

This is such positive news, thank you.
Can tummy issues be postiviral? Looking for some reassurance. I’ve had periods of IBS type pains before but this is worse, stabbing pains all over.

Glad they're checking you over thoroughly @toothfairy73 keep us posted 

It seems really hit and miss on the level of care each of us are getting... what part of the country are you in, if you don't mind me asking @toothfairy73?

That could be a good question for the survey?

Can tummy issues be postiviral?

Yes. It can be a sign of some post viral syndromes. I'm having bad tummy issues too. I don't quite have diarrhoea but pretty much everything I ate yesterday lasted about 90 minutes inside me. I'm hoping I manage better today.

I've had a dodgy stomach for the first time since yesterday @Moodgie! Worse today. No appetite either, which is also new.

My body is trying new tactics!

I'm doing well on symptom bingo but not a full house yet!

@SimpleKindofLife South London (Borough of Bromley). It's taken a course of steroids, 5 weeks, 3 calls to the GP, 2 calls to 111, referral to the local GP hub who are monitoring cases (but the hospital didn't seem to know this!) a course of amoxicillin about 2 weeks ago and me to get to a stage where I couldn't breathe before they told me to come in and be seen (I'm asthmatic and diabetic). There was someone else waiting in the isolation area who had been ill for 6 weeks and had none of those things (or the deterioration of breathing) who was told by their GP to come in. Initially I was seen by urgent care who still weren't going to test, do blood tests, chest X-ray despite the urgent care covid team telling me this is what I needed. I had to push (and got really upset as they weren't listening to me). Once I was referred to actual A&E things were taken much more seriously. Thank goodness they did; think they were pretty horrified by my white cell count

Thank you @alittleprivacy and @SimpleKindofLife
I only have a toilet rush in the mornings. And nausea. As the days goes on it disappears. The tummy pains started a few days ago, were lower tummy first and I thought maybe ovulation but today they are all over, mainly to the sides. Wonder if the antibiotic a few weeks ago destroyed the bacterial flora as well.

@Moodgie
Yes you can.
I got hepatitis E whilst travelling India 20 years ago. Actually this is the first time I've been really ill since. I recovered to a point but my stomach didn't seem to at all.
A dr. in india told me the virus had gone but the swelling hadn't and I had developed IBS which was really common. I worked out three foods set it off unbearably. I was OK once I eliminated them.
I still cant have one of them but i could have the other one after a few months and then the other after a few years. I crept it back in gradually.

@alittleprivacy that is a good find - I really hope they are right!

There is a high chance that all of the ongoing symptoms are related to inflammation. The virus works by getting into cells to replicate and destroying the cells to burst out and attack more cells, which causes a lot of tissue damage. An aggressive virus has potential to cause a lot of damage and over a longer time period than a milder one. Although initial perception was that COVID-19 was respiratory it now seems there a lot of evidence of the virus also attacking the linings of the blood vessels and gi tract as well as other organs. Tissue damage provokes an inflammatory response as this response brings cells for tissue repair. However, an excessive inflammatory response (which can occur from damage over longer duration from viral attack or from over activation of the immune system) also damages tissues, and therefore can self exacerbate causing the repair process to take a lot longer.

That's awful @toothfairy73 I don't live very far from you, different borough though.

I've had such mixed responses/medical care and I only got tested (blood test, ECG and chest X-ray) when I went to A&E in a panic about a blood clot or a heart attack.

It's worse in your case as you're diabetic and asthmatic! Sounds like you're in the right place now

However, an excessive inflammatory response (which can occur from damage over longer duration from viral attack or from over activation of the immune system) also damages tissues, and therefore can self exacerbate causing the repair process to take a lot longer.

So would you say that taking anti-inflammatories is a good idea at this point?

Such a shit day.

@alittleprivacy

Thanks for the link- that has made my day! X

@SimpleKindofLife I wonder if they didn't want to put me at further risk of coming to hospital if I didn't have it. It's the only explanation I have. I had a panic last night; if I didn't have it before I will get it now (as I lay face down on the pillow to get comfy). I feel better about it today. I need to be here so glad I came.