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Nicola Sturgeon AKA the control freak and her construction site rules

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usernamenotavail · 28/04/2020 16:06

Quite frankly I can't stand the woman. I think she's a complete control freak. She's obsessed with looking like she's doing things differently. Thankfully I don't live in Scotland but my OH does work there (construction industry) and has been off unpaid since 20th March. Massively struggling now after getting nothing but UC which goes nowhere. All construction sites have been forced to close in Scotland minus a few hospitals etc. England sites never had to close, friends in England in this trade are either at work now or have a confirmed date to go back within the next week or 2. Absolutely no mention of this in Scotland even though they are able to distance. Getting increasingly frustrated now and wondering if anyone has any insight or thoughts about when construction sites in Scotland will be allowed to reopen?

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FlibbertyGiblets · 28/04/2020 16:09

Why blot your not unreasonable query re restarting construction work in Scotland with insults towards their leadership? Bizarre.

Bflatmajorsharp · 28/04/2020 16:12

Do you mind me asking how workers can socially distance on a construction site, including using toilets, canteen etc, and also on the way to work?

It sounds like a really awful situation for your family, but the majority of construction sites aren't 'essential' and it is the right decision in terms of flattening the curve to keep them shut.

Is your husband SE, so possibly entitled to some financial support in June (I know....) or could he be furloughed?

It sounds like it's his employer that is the problem tbh, not the government.

TheThingWithFeathers · 28/04/2020 16:12

Thankfully I don't live in Scotland

Then thankfully we don't have to listen to your opinion of our FM!

Mlou32 · 28/04/2020 16:13

Yep. Thankfully you don't live here..

Bflatmajorsharp · 28/04/2020 16:14

And most sites in London at least have closed, after photos of workers cramped together on transport and in canteens were circulated and employers had to concede that no, they couldn't socially distance at work.

Pushed more by Khan than central govt, I think.

usernamenotavail · 28/04/2020 16:14

Because I've seen the way her unnecessary actions of closing them in the first place when England didn't have affected so many who now risk being unable to feed their family and keep a roof over their heads and I that is my opinion of her, which I am entitled to and know I am not the only one. Please don't comment unless it's helpful.

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TheSandman · 28/04/2020 16:14

Then thankfully we don't have to listen to your opinion of our FM!

This.

'Better together' my arse!

usernamenotavail · 28/04/2020 16:15

He's permanent but this started after the cut off date in feb.

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usernamenotavail · 28/04/2020 16:16

I'm honestly not bothered about people's opinions on my opinion, that's all it is, an opinion. Just skipping past anything that's not related to my question.

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Booboostwo · 28/04/2020 16:17

Please don't comment unless it's helpful.

Is that because your comments on the Scottish FM are so helpful? Are you leading by example?

Bflatmajorsharp · 28/04/2020 16:19

That's awful, I know a few people in that position and it absolutely stinks (having started a job after the furlough date).

You've probably already thought of this, but could you husband get some casual work elsewhere for the moment?

Unfortunately, keeping the construction sites shut is the right thing to do at the moment, and it's not true to say that sites in England haven't been affected at all (as you say in your first post actually).

StoorieHoose · 28/04/2020 16:20

Have you ever been on a building site? My DH regularly works in a house with 4 other trades practically all ontop of each other with 2 portaloos with minimal soap for the whole site. I'm glad she closed then when she did and until householders etc can ensure their workers and subbys can work safely then they should stay shut

feetfreckles · 28/04/2020 16:20

So someone does what she believes is in the best interests of the country as a whole and you are peeved because? You know better? Someone else did different?

I appreciate it's hard if you fall in the gaps of the financial safety nets , but I am not quite understanding what exactly you are criticising

Bflatmajorsharp · 28/04/2020 16:21

So to answer your question, sites will be opened when it is judged safe enough for them to do so.

Which nobody knows. That's what's doing everyone's head in.

Babdoc · 28/04/2020 16:23

OP, I share your opinion of Sturgeon and I DO live in Scotland!
She is obsessed with trying to do things differently to England and pushing for a second independence referendum, despite the obvious fact that Scotland would have been all but bankrupted by Covid without the massive UK bailout.
Which she tried to distribute differently to England, only giving out £25K per company, instead of for each one of their retail outlets - there was huge protest from the business community and she had to revert to the English plan.
I’m sorry your family are facing hardship as a result of her policies. I hope things change soon, or your DH is able to find work in England.

weebarra · 28/04/2020 16:24

It's a big issue. DH is a construction professional (surveyor of industrial sites). A lot of the places he surveys are retail units and shops which are closed. It wouldn't be an issue to survey them but they are not able to, while it's not an issue in England.

MissMarks · 28/04/2020 16:25

My dad was a senior manager in the construction industry- he says there is no way social distancing and good hygiene could be maintained if sites stayed open. Port a loos, poor or no hand washing facilities, trades men on top of each other. Just because England stayed open doesn’t mean they are right and the rest of the UK are wrong. And you wonder why some people think some English people are arrogant!!

macaroniandpizza · 28/04/2020 16:30

How can you possibly social distance on a building site? Hmm nicola sturgeon is doing a fantastic job and i say that as someone who lives in scotland

JunoJigglewick · 28/04/2020 16:31

NS put population safety above corporate profit. I applaud her for that.

The issue is with the development and construction industry that chooses corporate profit and greed over safety of their employees, nearby population and general (non covid related) lack of care or interest outwith their sites.

2bazookas · 28/04/2020 16:39

The OP should educate herself about what construction workers in England REALLY think about working at risk to their lives

www.thedeveloper.live/places/covid-19-why-are-construction-sites-still-open

Sonichu · 28/04/2020 16:43

"Thankfully I don't live in Scotland "

You're not the only person thankful for that. If you're so outraged tell your husband to come home and find work in England.

Letsdrinkgin · 28/04/2020 16:44

Sturgeon has always done the complete opposite of the goverment. I can’t stand her. I left Scotland years ago because the SNP and I made the right choice

wonkylegs · 28/04/2020 16:45

I'm finding that although technically construction sites in England can be open if they can follow the guidance it's actually quite hard to safely practice the SD & hygiene practices. I've had to advise clients that upon discussions with contractors they are quite limited as to what can go on. Manual handling issues (2 man lifts) , not enough space on site for multiple workers or one way systems, insufficient washing / toileting facilities coupled with supply issues for materials and ppe means that for many sites it's not actually possible. We've also had an issue with building inspections which will hold up progress.
There is a site near me that has opened up (not one of mine) however I have been very concerned about their procedures and as far as I'm concerned the staff on site are at risk both with regards to CV19 but also general H&S which seems to have slipped as there doesn't seem to be any management on site. I have let their head office know there is a problem and if there is no improvement by next week I will have to report them.

StoorieHoose · 28/04/2020 16:48

@Letsdrinkgin don't talk pish. She hasn't done the exact opposite of the WM government. If she had I wouldnt have been furloughed and Scotland would not be in 'lockdown'

NannyOggsStripedSocks · 28/04/2020 16:51

There is a reason why there are a lot fewer deaths from Covid 19 in Scotland and lockdown is one, you don't even live in Scotland and you are moaning, get a grip, lady

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