People having family and friends visit

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Why do some people think that it's ok to have friends and family over? That they are special and the rules do not apply to them. So infuriating and an insult to those of us who are missing seeing our loved ones.

think ita all very well saying what should of happened but doesnt help us now

All I'm saying is people's anger is misplaced. We've got people on this thread wishing death on someone because they took their toddler round to their grandparents to play in the garden. Saying their responsible for the death of NHS workers, when the people that are really responsible are the gov and NHS bosses for not getting the right ppe.

As usual the British people turn on each other rather than on those in charge. It's the same with eveything. And it plays into the govs hands, because we spend our time frothing at each other and carry on voting the cunts in.

Let's not forget Boris and Cuntings were happy to let the sick and old die off at the start of this. They only changed tack because it was bad for their image and they did want to appear to have blood on their hands. They still don't actually give a shit about us. They just don't want to look bad.

People r not wishing death on people, they r saying why should certain people get treatment when they r not following rules to protect the nhs , if the doctor had to choose between 2 people , one who was follwoing guidelines and one who wasnt i k ow who i would prefer them to choose and im not talking about caring for elderly damily, im talking about people who r ignoring rules cause they dont fancy it
Didnt u earlier say us leaving lockdown and gettin on with it to preserve economy which would effect the old and sick, u cant have it both ways

All I'm saying is people's anger is misplaced no it’s not misplaced.
I’m angry at our government, the Chinese government, AND the assholes who are bending and in some instances breaking the rules for their own wants!

@chicken25 Thank God people like you don't get to make any important decisions. And Thank God medics are better people than you are.

@nautralbornkiller I agree with you people are so quick to turn on each other they actually forget who is in charge and didn't react quick enough.
This is what those in charge want turn on each other to take the spotlight off them and we're all playing into their hands.
BJ missed five cobra meetings about this virus we could of been organised January we could of stopped flights early February to contain it but what did we do oh yeah NOTHING.
It's all well and good clapping for the NHS but they need PPE not clapping every Thursday what's that going to achieve.
Grass up your neighbours sit there stressing about what everyone else is doing while ignoring the real problem of those in charge.

They STILL haven’t stopped flights...

Its obviously hypothetical, if i was a doctor i would hope i didnt need to make that decision but other doctors in the world have had to, and obviously they wouldnt know that information

I'm sure quite a few medics would judge a person who became ill because they had been out socialising all the time because they didn't care, and they would probably judge them even more if they had passed this virus on to other people because of their careless attitude. Won't change the way they treat them but I bet they would judge.

And there are going to be rules for a long time that we should be adhering to because of this virus, and I am assuming the people who don't care now, won't care about them either. All the time adding risk to other people.

We live in a society that sadly focuses on the “ rights” and not the responsibilities. Some individuals are not prepared to make even modest sacrifices even if its for the greater good. I don’t really know how you change that... if the thought of the emergency services reaching breaking point or serious Illness or death befalling your family doesn’t stop you then nothing will.

Didnt u earlier say us leaving lockdown and gettin on with it to preserve economy which would effect the old and sick, u cant have it both ways

No, I said it needs to spread quicker. We now have a surplus of beds and ventilators in most hospitals. I agree that we need to slow the spread, but it's slowed too much.

But picking between a person who has been religiously sticking by the lockdown and someone who didn't isn't a choice that has to be made at the moment. The hospitals are currently able to treat everyone.

And I'm not talking about people having parties and social gatherings. I'm taking about the people on this thread that have gone and visited grandparents and sat in the garden. Mixing your house with one other house really isn't that bigger problem. Especially not when we still have flights coming into this country, we still have people riding the tube, the amazon factory is still full of workings with reportedly no ppe.

Get things in perspective.

And people on this thread have wished death on others, saying you wish people would get seriously ill and be denied medical treatment is wishing death on someone. Someone else said she wished a virus would wipe out people that broke lockdown rules.

Ur being a bit dramatic thou arnt u, like i do think if people r going to ignore the rules why should they get medical treatment that they will need when other r following guildlines and not meeting up, why should their selfishness be accepted? And why should they have accese to something that they have complete lack of disregard for.

Its not like they r not aware of why we are asked to stay at home, its to not overwhelm the nhs , if they ignore that they are not caring or their wants trump the need of the nhs. So why should they be given the nhs service when they are not supporting the nhs.

Because we live in a country where everyone has the right to medical treatment. Not only those who you deem worthy.

And people on this thread have wished death on others doesn’t seem anywhere near as bad as people who don’t give a shit about key workers and nhs staff putting their lives on the line. All you have to do for them in stay home!

They STILL haven’t stopped flights which unless they are bringing home UK nationals is utterly wrong- it isn’t an either or situation!

Well these are exceptional circumstances

But the NHS is not overwhelmed!

If I lived in an area where people were being turned away from hospital then I may decide to limit my time outside my home. But I don't. The gov never expected people to follow the rules so strictly. We can afford for a few people to mix a little bit. If you wanna be in the group that locks yourself at home be my guest. I'm happy not to be.

Oh and again. I'm not talking about people having bbqs with friends over or house parties. I'm talking about the people on this thread that have been to sit in a relatives garden.

Ill be intrested to know if medical treatment was only given to those who followed the rules , i wonder what the people who classes themselves more special would do

But i have all along said if people need to go to family members to give them food etc then fine, i am talking about the peole having parties bbq wih others etc

I can't see how stopping flights is a good idea. Covid is well and truly here and being transmitted in our communities. Stopping flights is like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. And anyway, those arriving will have to abide by the rules anyway. They're hardly going to be going to restaurants or tourist attractions right now.

doesn’t seem anywhere near as bad as people who don’t give a shit about key workers and nhs staff putting their lives on the line. All you have to do for them in stay home!

Many people are still going out to work some still on public transport. Many children are still in nursery and school.

Noone in my household is going out at all apart from to get shopping. So if I wanna pop round to my mums for a cup of tea in the garden, I'm going to. Get things in perspective and stop with the hysteria.

Ill be intrested to know if medical treatment was only given to those who followed the rules , i wonder what the people who classes themselves more special would do

Wouldn't bother me. This is a mild illness for most people. I was confident it would be for me. I'm pretty sure I've had it now and it was mild. No worse than any other viral infection. It was mild for the 5 other people I've been mixing with too.

Judging by the threads i've seen on here, a lot of people don't really give a shit about NHS workers, they give a shit about themselves and their families and that's as far as it goes.

I've seen several threads about NHS frontline workers going through incredibly stressful times and exposing themselves to the virus every day and MNetters shouting for their friends to 'report them to their manager' because they live alone and had a friend visit or their boyfriend come over.

Happy for them to risk their lives every day? Yes. Go straight home to an empty house with no-one to support them after a hellish shift? Yep. Aren't they wonderful?

Have a tiny bit of compassion and understanding that during probably the most stressful times of their lives they needed a friend/partner to give them a hug or share a bottle of wine with both of them assessing the risk and thinking its worth it to offer some much needed comfort and human compassion? Which may make it a tiny bit easier to carry on?

No! The selfish fuckers. REPORT them. I even saw someone say they hoped it would get them sacked on one thread.

I am meeting with one friend (at hers or mine house). We are both single parents, foreign / new to the UK and are strictly isolating from the rest of the world (not even shopping as both preppers / going for walks).
I don't see any additional risk in that. We waited for 4 weeks in full isolation so our households are clearly both covid free. Otherwise we'd both go mad.