People having family and friends visit

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Why do some people think that it's ok to have friends and family over? That they are special and the rules do not apply to them. So infuriating and an insult to those of us who are missing seeing our loved ones.

*I'm sure my DM's neighbours see me arrive a couple of times a week and are probably complaining about it to someone. What they might not know is that she has cancer, needs meds and shopping bringing, and I sit outside In her garden while she sits indoors and I talk to her through the window.

You don't know the ins and outs of people's lives. Fair enough if people are having groups round for a jolly it's out of order, but in some situations there's more to it.*
Exactly this, I do the same

@HairyFloppins seems like it. The reasons for the figures being so bad each day now make sense

@OnlyFoolsnMothers but the whole point is to reduce the risk, so where there is a pressing need to see someone eg health, bereavement (which does appear to be covered by the guidelines) that can happen, but people should be mindful. But there is no need to see someone for a BBQ or because you don't give a fuck about lockdown and the NHS staff who are risking their lives to look after people.

Mn has definitely changed- the community that would dob everyone who claims a penny more than they are supposed to in benefits now pretty much saying do what you like despite a lock down

Maybe these are the ones that were screaming for the schools to be shut and want them open again.

People need to do what they need to do ridiculous comment. You do realise the longer this goes on, not only is it utter shit for so many people but the more businesses will shut down, the further the financial black hole individuals will find themselves in, the higher unemployment figures will rise?!!!
So I’m sorry if neighbour X Y and Z are lonely, im sorry if their family in Europe can’t see them, but guess what my family is 10mins away and I can’t bloody see them either !!!

@EL8888

I honestly feel like it's never going to end.

LetMeOutOfHere so how do you and your family get food if you are isolating to such an extreme it’s ok to see one another?

but the whole point is to reduce the risk, so where there is a pressing need to see someone eg health, bereavement most of the examples on here have been I miss my family and I’m sure it’s fine. Fact is yes if you need to deliver medicine, or a close relative has died you can visit, but the crap about “we’ve all isolated so we are fine” is just a pathetic way to try and justify flouncing the rules. If you are going for a walk or getting food you have no way to guarantee you have no risk in mixing with people.

@OnlyFoolsnMothers if your dad died & he died alone, would you visit your mum if she was struggling?

People saying the hound can die too. Of course they can but statistically it is v low risk. The headlines are jumping on anyone young dying and scaremongering. You can die from chicken pox. A vaccine has been available since the nineties. But most of my friends thought I was a bit strange to get my children vaccinated. Go figure.

*young not hound

When lockdown ends then, will all the people banging on about the 'rules' just assume that the virus has miraculously disappeared and everything is hunky dory again? Will you blithely send your kids back to school because lockdown is over and the government has allowed some normalcy to continue? Back to work chaps, alls well? The virus was here before lockdown and will continue afterwards. At some point it will all be about weighing your personal risk, for ALL of us. So will some of you not ever be visiting family again??

Well if this crisis has taught me anything, it's that a huge proportion of the population is as thick as shit.

tontie doesn’t overly apply to me as both my parents are already dead but to use your example yes I would. I wouldn’t however go round and see my 70yr old aunt whose currently isolating alone claiming it’s fine if I stick to 2metres and it’s fine as I’ve barely been out and I’m happy to take the risk!

CrowCat
Lock down isn’t until the virus has ceased, it’s until the curve flattens, the rate of infections lowers and stabilises.
Honestly British people don’t know how lucky they are. They want to try living in India where you literally can’t go for a walk.

@onlyfools yes I'm aware of that, and that's my whole point. The virus isn't going to disappear after lockdown yet so many people seem to think it is!! So the risk of seeing family today is the same as it was 4 weeks ago and the same as it will be in another 4 weeks!

You can die from chicken pox

olivehater 20 people a year die from chicken pox a year in the U.K.- seriously what a bizarre comparison.

fair enough @OnlyFoolsnMothers

CrowCat so you don’t think there should be a lock down?
How else do you think we will curb the numbers?

yes I'm aware of that, and that's my whole point. The virus isn't going to disappear after lockdown yet so many people seem to think it is!! So the risk of seeing family today is the same as it was 4 weeks ago and the same as it will be in another 4 weeks!

Jeez, this is like pulling teeth.

I think everyone knows the virus isn't going to just disappear.

I thought one of the points of the lockdown was to slow it down so the nhs wasn't swamped and unable to cope.

@CrowCat but there are reasons why we are currently in lockdown. Some schools have gone back in Denmark but there are still rules, social distancing is still required, so class sizes limited, children have to sit 2m apart, not allowed to play closely together. Parents/children have to line up like you do at supermarkets, only use certain doors to go in and out.

When this period of lockdown stops it's not going to be a free for all.

Looking at the way some people are behaving on this thread, if our schools go back with similar rules to Denmark some parents will be telling their little darlings that the rules don't apply to them, and they can do what ever they want to at school.

The entire population doesn’t get it at once only fools.

Fuck the lot of them. Get sick. Die

This situation has brought out a real streak of nastiness in many people, and in society generally. The judgment, the curtain twitching, the eagerness to report our neighbours for posting letters or buying milk... It's all so thoroughly depressing.

You can only control what you do, not what others do. Some people will have need to visit family or friends - remember that caring for others is within the guidelines. As is stopping to eat lunch or cycle for exercise. Telling them that they ought to get sick and die for 'flouting rules' is far more indicative of the dire state of the country than anything these people have (lawfully) done.

Now now @OnlyFoolsnMothers @CrowCat is clearly an expert virologist

That’s also just one example. How many people bothered to get their kids the meningitis b vaccine before it went into the National programme? Not very many despite it being extremely dangerous. I had plenty of friends that could have easily afforded it but didn’t bother.