People having family and friends visit

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Why do some people think that it's ok to have friends and family over? That they are special and the rules do not apply to them. So infuriating and an insult to those of us who are missing seeing our loved ones.

We, my parents and my family, have decided to see each other. We have all been isolating and we have decided to take the risk

@Remmy123 we have done the same today

I don't think anyone is following every rule to the letter so let's keep our noses out of other people's situations for god sake!

I agree.

Well, the rules change quite regularly it seems.

Gatherings are OK if you are clapping for carers in London.

It wasn't OK to rest on a park bench, but now it is deemed acceptable.

You could drive a short distance to exercise, then you couldn't, now you can again.

It's OK to go stay with a friend if you have had an argument as long as you stay for days, not hours. Days, not weeks.

If in three weeks time they say you can now visit friends and family it will not automatically be any safer. We are going to have to live with the risk that you might have it and not know and pass it around to others for a pretty long time.

People can rant and rave as much as they like but there is very little point. People will continue to make their own decisions whether you like it or not.

We've not visited a shop or a park in 3 wks but i'm not going to let my relative grieve alone & we had to assist with getting the death certificate etc

@Remmy123 agreed. My Dad has been and sat in our garden while we sit at the doors and chat. He brings his own flask to have a coffee. He’s widowed, lives alone and sees no one unless he’s shopping. His mental health is being hideously impacted.

By reading this thread seems like the majority are out of lock down now.

To be honest, we don't know how long my grandma has left so we are not going to let her suffer alone. She has said she would rather take the rest than be on her own for weeks. We sat in her garden, 2 metres apart.

Risk not rest

@HairyFloppins

It depends where you live. No one is breaking the rules around here as far as I know. (As far as I know, I don't watch to see what my neighbours are doing particularly. )

I must hold my hand up...I went to my mums last week and sat in the garden... and e must've been at least 5 meters apart, if not more.

My reasons being that my stepdad has been in isolation now for 4 weeks, not seeing anyone. They haven't been aboe to go shopping as the head gasket has gone in his car, so we were dropping our second car over for them and his cousin was found dead in her house, from presumed covid (waiting on autopsy) she was only 47 and had been there for around 3 days. He was really really low, so we agreed as long as we stuck to the rules of distancing, not going in the house and no physical contact, then it wouldn't do any harm, but perked him up massively in a time that he was really low

Just been skim reading this thread and whilst I don’t care what other people choose to do as it is their business and life, not mine.

Is this not a prime example of why the government need to look at relaxing measures in 3 weeks time? Because people will not comply due to mental health etc. My mum has been told (she’s vulnerable) that she has to stay in for 12 weeks! Can’t even go out to exercise. She’s even told me herself she’s going to be tempted to risk her health soon as she’s really struggling now. She lives alone.

Judging from this thread attitudes on mn have really changed. Pretty sure last week if you said you were seeing family you'd get a pile-on, now everyone's at it

I do agree with pulp fiction if you are in a low risk area. They should have staged the lockdown starting with affected cities. But no we all had to follow exactly what London had to do as the world revolves around them. What’s the point of locking down areas that don’t have it yet. When it eventually gets to them they will have to lock down allover again.

I am no curtain twitcher, in nicer weather it's pretty obvious and difficult to ignore what is going on in people's homes and gardens. I have no intention of reporting anyone. Knock your socks off have friends over for BBQs and then stand outside on Thursdays clapping for the NHS. What's the point

But there is a difference from seeing family that are grieving to those going an mixing households just for fun or having a BBQ and a few beers, without keeping your distance. In some countries you would be heavily fined for that.

For those of you flouting the rules just because you can, how would you feel if your parents got ill and died and the only person they could have got it from was you?

Problem is what constitutes an exceptional circumstance?
What constitutes being careful?
Someone's idea of self-isolating and being careful is someone else's reckless.
Lockdown should be exactly that.
Then no grey areas.

The elderly couple could have their dc bringing shopping round or caring for them in some way, perfectly acceptable.

I'm sure my DM's neighbours see me arrive a couple of times a week and are probably complaining about it to someone. What they might not know is that she has cancer, needs meds and shopping bringing, and I sit outside In her garden while she sits indoors and I talk to her through the window.

You don't know the ins and outs of people's lives. Fair enough if people are having groups round for a jolly it's out of order, but in some situations there's more to it.

Mn has definitely changed- the community that would dob everyone who claims a penny more than they are supposed to in benefits now pretty much saying do what you like despite a lock down

But there is a difference from seeing family that are grieving to those going an mixing households just for fun or having a BBQ and a few beers
The difference is the sentiment not the risk!

My grandad (my mums dad) died on Wednesday. My mum lives alone and has not seen anyone. I popped round for an hour the night he died. We sat 3 metres away in the garden for an hour. I went again yesteday for 30 mins to check on her. I will probably do the same again this week. She is alone, widowed and the last of her parents has just died (she has visited him every day without fail for the past 10 years).

The government sat with their thumb up their arse for over a month doing absolutely fuck all to prevent this happening. I’d target your annoyance to the right people.

i know the virus is nasty and I get that but what others do is not our business really couldnt give a shit if someone flounces the rules and gets
Corona. I object if this means the numbers keep
Rising and this hell continues for those that aren’t mixing!

People can take risks if they want and you can say it's no one else's business but actually right now it is everyone's business. The longer people choose to ignore the lockdown for purely selfish reasons, the more this spreads and the longer we are in lockdown and so we all suffer.

I feel terribly sorry for people living alone, it must be so difficult. I have my children for company and can't imagine being here with out them. I think most people have probably made a decision by risk assessing, and its best to leave them to it.

The people two doors away from me are having a bbq once a week, and inviting the same set of friends each time. They're European and away from family, so I just leave them to it. My neighbour is elderly and has her daughter to visit and sit in the garden with her.
People need to do what they need to do.

Stupidity and selfishness covers the answers why pretty well