Worried About Coronavirus- thread 38

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Almost X post Saucery You beat me to it Neighbours have been letting off fireworks on a Thursday night. Loud display type bangs.

People have been asked and asked not to do it in RL and on our local FB pages

a. NHS workers and other key workers work shifts and might be sleeping

b. It disturbs and frightens pets including the pets of some of those same workers.

c. No matter how careful people try to be accidents happen. Admissions to the burns units means more pressure on the NHS.

But despite knowing all this they still fucking do it.

I noticed during the clapping on TV some neighbour's front doors are side by side barely 0.5mtr distance and everyone in the tiny garden.
Is it held every night or weekly.

@WhyNotMe40 ds has been offered the same test too based on his symptoms. I registered for a home test (as it takes you through to the gov. website offering home tests or a test at a regional centre) but it didn’t accept me as eligible, despite following the instructions in the email from the Zoe Covid company. We can’t get to a regional test centre as our closest one would involve a 100 mile round trip. And, Ds’s symtoms started 6 weeks ago so I don’t know if there’s be much virus left in his system. I feel exactly the same as you about taking a test from someone who needs it, especially as the home tests seem unreliable so I’m probably no help as I was quite unsure of whether to do it or not! I would first of all see how you get on with registering on the website. There’s more availability at test centres rather than for home test kits, so if you’re near a test centre it may be easier.

Surely it's not a case of taking a test from someone who needs it if you've been selected? And it's for the "greater good" - ie if you test negative that's still valuable info for PHE and the symptom tracker app.

which is why until niw the number tested was waasy too low to collect any meaningful data.

The Telegraph is reporting that parallel teams and home working will be 'the new normal' and has a quote of

"The real new is - you're going to be working from home for a long time to come" said a source close to the blue print. "This isn't back to normal life".

Workers will be asked to come into the office at different times and stagger their lunch breaks.

The FT has a similar story saying hot desking to be curtailed, staff canteens to remain closed, no socialising during breaks, limit the number of people using a lift, floor tape to mark out 2m spaces, other retailers to protect staff with plastic screens, people encouraged to shop alone, retailers to have outdoor queuing where possible.

This is being discussed with unions. But the burden to small companies is being thought of as problematic and might stop some from reopening straight away.

It also says that the government is making the point that any changes to workplaces, schools and public transport will be gradual.

Guardian are going with story that 1st June is the target date (note still not set in stone) for starting to reopen schools and this was likely to be staggered (being suggested year 6 first).

So no sudden end to lockdown however it goes.

I think we will see some relaxing of rules in the next couple of weeks though.

And tbh thats how it should be.

inews.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-latest-britain-lack-preparedness-tackling-covid-19-austerity-2841170

Red do you think we will be able to see family members in a couple of weeks time Id like to see my mum.

It's a very good time to look to spreading the economy more evenly across the UK. It isn't easy for many people to work from home. Especially in places like London where the housing crisis is most acute. Lots of workers live in cramped poor quality rented housing - particularly shared private rented housing. Meanwhile other areas have more housing but few jobs. The solution seems simple.

@WhyNotMe40 I'd take the test. Some people are asymptomatic (and also the incubation period can be longer than two weeks). As PP say it's to help you but also for the greater good. We need a better picture of just how many have it including those without symptoms.

do you think we will be able to see family members in a couple of weeks time Id like to see my mum.

Outdoors yes. From a distance.

Letting others inside your house. No.

Still no hugging for a while I suspect.

Toffee i agree and partly because of Government policy. Under 35s who are single are expected to house share.

This pandemic was man made.

Yes Helena And many over 35s too. On paper they're eligible for single dwellings but Osborne and Cameron's freeze on housing benefit left it far behind market rents in some areas.

Labour aren't blameless. It was the Blair and Brown governments that set the wheels in motion with 'reforms' to disability and housing benefits. It was they who first paid private companies to perform questionable 'medical assessments'. They also saddled the NHS with crippling PFI debts.

No one political party is blameless.

@Quartz2208 I had a look at that report you posted and the thing that stuck out the most was how annoying it must have been for them to have to write ‘EU/EEA countries and the UK’ all the way through. Bloody Brexit.

Toffee i agree I have Municipal Dreams The Rise and Fall of Council Housing by John Boughton. It covers a lot including the failures and successes of past and near present housing policies.

I don't do the clap thing

That sounds like something worth reading. If I can bear to. It's a very depressing topic. We started making progress after WW2 and continued to do so for a little while. We've gone backwards over the past 30-40 years.

A poster on a different thread wrote about her thyroid condition yesterday. It happened to a friend of mine too. Both were told to go away by doctors. Repeatedly told it was nothing or it was psychological. My friend eventually had a private diagnosis. The poster here was diagnosed when she moved to America. As a consequence of their delayed diagnoses both gained weight. Caused by the condition.

This is very true. I am hypo and gained weight until I got on the right thyroid hormone replacement. It's far harder to get a diagnosis, now, as the baseline test - TSH measurement - has been increased to a higher threshold before diagnosis. People go to their GP with terrible hypo symptoms yet can't get diagnosed and are more likely to have anti-depressants pushed at them. It's a national disgrace and makes me very angry. I know many thyroid people and across the board it's bad. The more I've found out since being diagnosed, the worse it is.

Taking thyroxine when it is not clinically indicated can increase your risk of cardiac arrhythmias such as AF, stroke and osteoporosis. Yes it helps you lose weight but there are good reasons it is not given out as a diet pill. It's only supposed to be for replacement of pathologically low thyroid hormone, not to boost your levels above normal

NEWS / CORONAVIRUS FOOD ALERT

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Government food parcels should come with a health warning
The Government has stepped in to distribute food parcels to the one and half million people clinically vulnerable people being shielded from the coronavirus. However, now that the parcels have started to arrive, questions are being asked about what is in them.

Photo credit: Food parcel for clinically extremely vulnerable people, March 2020. Anonymous but verified source

Photo credit: Food parcel for clinically extremely vulnerable people, March 2020. Anonymous but verified source

Pictures have emerged of emergency food boxes filled white bread, pasta, tins of corned beef and satsumas, and in a comment piece (£) The Times journalist Jenni Russell said she was ‘stunned’ by what she described as the ‘pitifully inadequate’ provisions being sent to tens of thousands of Britain’s most medically vulnerable people.

The operation is expected be scaled up to hundreds of thousands in the coming weeks. These are people the NHS considers the sickest in the country, who desperately need shielding from coronavirus. They number cancer patients, transplant survivors and immune supressed patients.

According to Jenni Russell, the first boxes, which are being organised by the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government, were “high on carbohydrate, much of it highly processed.” She listed: “a packet of fig rolls, a box of chocolate breakfast cereal, a packet of pasta, one white sliced loaf, a packet of potatoes. Three tins of beans, two of starchy marrowfat peas, two of tomatoes, one of peach slices, a jar of pasta sauce, teabags and coffee. There are no fresh vegetables but a little fresh fruit; a small bag of oranges and one of pears

She describes it as food “to survive on, not to nourish” and argues “the reason this matters so deeply is that we are not just trying to give people any old calories to keep them alive. In this pandemic, where there is no cure, whether or not we survive will be critically influenced by the robustness of our individual bodies and immune systems.”

Sustain chief executive, Kath Dalmeny, was interviewed for the piece and is described as “sympathetic” to the government’s fight on many fronts, but says it must recognise the magnitude of the task it has assumed here. Kath Dalmeny said:

“It is a crying shame that so many meals-on-wheels services have been axed due to austerity over recent years, which used to keep older people fed and cared for. In this coronavirus outbreak, it’s as if the state is starting a care home for 400,000 extremely fragile residents. These people need bespoke diets designed by clinical dieticians, differing for those with varying critical conditions, provided in packaging easily opened by weak hands. If they can’t get that, malnutrition and hunger will follow.

tbh
many people probably would complain if the box contained whole meal bread/pasta or vegetables that need proper knives to prepare them for cooking.

@pocketem
Maybe but the levels for tsh are way too high. It should be ariund 1 for fertility. They let it get to 10.
Im not sure thry are saying for weight loss as much as it causing weight gain.
I was told i cant have hypo because i was thin also had pcos. In some ways thyroxine made me hungrier.
Many people are naturally hyper and people can be hyper after pregnancy.

They cant put too much fresh in there as delivery is unpredictable so if people have just had food delivered it would be wasted. Plus the time taken to deliver it.

Agreed that the food boxes are high carb, for anyone.
I've got type 2 diabetes and eating white flour (so bread and pasta), rice, stuff with added sugar etc really negatively impacts my blood sugar levels.
I did get a few fruit and veg (apples, plums, carrots, onions and a couple of spuds), some teabags, dark chocolate and long life milk that I could use.
I had to pass on sachets of instant porridge, a dozen English muffins, six portions of rice pudding, a pack of hot cross buns, chocolates bars, biscuits and giant tins of baked beans.
The * items all had a use by date of the day after they'd arrived, as did the 2 packs of veggie meatballs and 2 litres of scrambled egg mix; I'm the only person in my household and there's no way I could have got through it all in time.
I was able to pass on the stuff I couldn't use, but it was most of the box.

I've been lucky enough to get a supermarket delivery slot for tonight - I don't know how I'd survive on the boxes without really exacerbating my diabetes.

I get the box, and the contents are quite adequate. No complaints. But they are only for one person. I am isolating in a household of six.
Saying that, I didn't actually want the box. I just wanted priority for supermarket delivery. There was only one option. You have help or you don't. I don't have help, but I am doing ok with deliveries as I'm on the supermarkets priority list.