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Worried About Coronavirus- thread 38

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TheStarryNight · 18/04/2020 13:57

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Quartz2208 · 26/04/2020 22:27

Schools in Italy break up around June 6th so with everything else opening on the 1st there would be no point!

But it is a good sign

TheCanterburyWhales · 27/04/2020 07:10

Yes, schools finish on June 10th officially but it's often a few days before depending on where June 10th falls. We're back today (online via video lesson obvs) after one bank holiday, have another next week and one on 2nd June so factoring those in, we have 38 days of school left, not really worth implementing the SD procedures etc for that amount of time.
He did say the 5th year exams (which will only be oral in front of a team of internal teachers with one external chair) will be held face to face and not via video link as had been suggested.
Regional govts also have leeway to change their own phase 2.

TheStarryNight · 27/04/2020 08:46

What’s your lockdown tribe? British split into those who accept, suffer or resist

Analysis by Kings College has found that there are three groups who are all dealing with strict social distancing measures differently

By Hayley Dixon
Daily Telegraph, 27 April 2020 • 6:30am

The coronavirus pandemic has split the British public into three groups - those who are accepting, suffering or resisting lockdown, research has found.

Analysis from Kings College found that the largest group, just under 48 per cent of the UK, have accepted the new reality under social distancing measures and only a small number of them – 12pc – are losing sleep over the pandemic.

The accepting are the most likely to support the lockdown and extra police powers and the majority at 87pc are following the lockdown rules nearly all of the time. They are the least likely group to face financial difficulties.

The second largest group are the suffering, accounting for almost 44pc of the population, almost all of whom are feeling more anxious and depressed since lockdown began.

The suffering are the most likely to lose sleep over the virus, and a third said that they are constantly thinking about it. In turn, they show the highest compliance rates with lockdown measure at 93pc.

In contrast only 49 per cent of the resisting group - which makes up 9pc of the population - are following the rules and only half support the conditions that have been imposed to control the spread of the virus.

Those resisting are also much more likely to be using alternative therapies which are not recommended, such as drinking ginger tea (55pc) and using homeopathic remedies (50pc).

More than half of those resisting think “too much fuss is being made about the risk of coronavirus”, compared with only 14% of the UK population as a whole.

They are also most likely to suffer financially from the impact of the crisis, the survey of 2,250 residents by Ipsos Mori found.

Analysis showed that 16- to 24-year-olds are most likely to be resisting while 55- to 75-year-olds are most likely to be accepting.

The resisting group was more likely to have voted Labour and Remain in the referendum, whilst those who were accepting were more likely to be Conservative voting Brexiteers.

Women are finding the lockdown harder than men, accounting for the majority of those suffering at 64pc. Men make up the same percentage in the resisting group.

Dr Daniel Allington, Senior Lecturer in Social and Cultural Artificial Intelligence at King’s College London, said: “Although the great majority of UK residents are acting very responsibly, this doesn’t mean that we’re all feeling fine.

“The measures being taken to combat coronavirus are much tougher on some people than they are on others, and it is clear that the overall situation is taking a heavy toll on large numbers of people – many of whom may find themselves in urgent need of support as the lockdown and the pandemic drag on.

“Moreover, there are some people who don’t seem to see the need for the measures currently being taken, and as a result appear reluctant to follow the rules.”

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mrshoho · 27/04/2020 09:04

Boris is about to give a statement outside no. 10.

pocketem · 27/04/2020 09:20

The last COVID-19 patient in Wuhan, 77-yr-old man surnamed Ding, was discharged on Sun upon recovery. The number of Wuhan's active cases has now dropped to zero

Focusanddetermination · 27/04/2020 11:33

Boris statement taking of people who will be looking at our apparent success???!!!?

What the fuckety fuck. Is he living in another country.. You know like one of the ones that can rightfully say that?

changemind · 27/04/2020 11:48

Anyone know more than daily mail about "sharp increase in children ICU from 'inflammatory syndrome'"

changemind · 27/04/2020 11:49

Why do they have to write like that

changemind · 27/04/2020 11:50

Is it the actual journalists or what

TheStarryNight · 27/04/2020 11:54

There’s a thread about that @changedmind

There are some links to other articles in the thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3892275-This-is-concerning

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buttermilkwaffles · 27/04/2020 12:02

Not yet peer reviewed, but interesting:

"Study of twins reveals genetic effect on Covid-19 symptoms"

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/27/study-of-twins-reveals-genetic-effect-on-covid-19-symptoms?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

Quartz2208 · 27/04/2020 12:21

Does anyone else think there is sometimes a disconnect between how the medical professionals (including WHO) do things and how the media picks them up and then turns them into far more sensational and panic inducing news.

WHO issues a statement regarding immunity and relying on herd immunity and passports. Media suddenly say NO IMMUNITY

A medical alert concerning a small amount of cases has been sent to make sure Doctors are aware - media get hold taking an apparent rise to a sharp increase!

changemind · 27/04/2020 12:57

Oh no.

changemind · 27/04/2020 13:08

I just want to offer my heartfelt condolences to EmeraldShamrock I hope you have close family with you at the moment.

buttermilkwaffles · 27/04/2020 13:55

Are people dying ‘of’ COVID-19 or ‘with’ COVID-19?
blog.actuaries.org.uk/blog/what-difference-word-makes

"It is impossible from the currently available data to determine the reasons for the substantial spike in excess deaths that do not have COVID on the death certificate. More detailed data on care home deaths, and changes in hospital admissions, might go some way to resolving the magnitude of groups A, B and C. But the major shift of non-COVID deaths from hospital to community deaths points to a substantial impact of the current lockdown on the outcomes for elderly people."
medium.com/wintoncentre/covid-and-excess-deaths-in-the-week-ending-april-10th-20ca7d355ec4

Derbygerbil · 27/04/2020 14:04

Does anyone else think there is sometimes a disconnect between how the medical professionals (including WHO) do things and how the media picks them up and then turns them into far more sensational and panic inducing news.

Absolutely... I’m resigned to the fact that the likes of the DM do this, but the BBC do too. I’m not sure how much is deliberate or how much is stupidity.

For instance, the WHO state “there is no evidence that having the virus confers immunity” is translated as “there is evidence that immunity in not conferred by the virus”. The two are very different but reporters don’t seem to grasp this, or deliberately misconstrue it.

changemind · 27/04/2020 14:16

but, there is in fact an increase in children having the severe response. The last link starry night has posted just now is a respected publisher suggesting that some of those patients had previously had covid. Previously.

changemind · 27/04/2020 14:17

Germany and I'm not sure, bojo ? Are preparing for a sudden surge now

changemind · 27/04/2020 14:18

My mind just wants to switch off right now.

SistemaAddict · 27/04/2020 14:32

A surge wouldn't surprise me due to people out at Easter and the subsequent increase in people out and about. Maybe more people presenting to hospitals now that we've been told that it's ok to go there.

RigaBalsam · 27/04/2020 15:06

@quartz

They did that exactly with that limited study

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RedToothBrush · 27/04/2020 15:46

For instance, the WHO state “there is no evidence that having the virus confers immunity” is translated as “there is evidence that immunity in not conferred by the virus”. The two are very different but reporters don’t seem to grasp this, or deliberately misconstrue it.

Medical reporting is of a particularly poor standard in this country. Its a pet peev of mine and something Ive been banging on about on mumsnet for over 11 years.

MarshaBradyo · 27/04/2020 15:51

Did they twist it as such? I googled quickly and could only see direct WHO statements. Anyone got a link?

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