Worried About Coronavirus- thread 38

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re: air conditioning/air recycling. Has any study been done on flights?

www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/immunity-passports-in-the-context-of-covid-19

Is what the WHO say. The absence of evidence doesnt mean it doesnt exist but simply that it has not been around enough to have evidence of immunity if that makes sense.

The WHO have never said there is NO immunity simply that we shouldnt rely on it as a means of keeping CV contained

Oh @UtterlyPerfectCartoonGiraffe I message on a wrong thread just saying chicken pox type rash is seen in covid

Quartz thanks for posting that link. Adds more context to the confusing BBC report.

Media reporting frustrates me on the subject! The WHO are IMO rightly basically saying that no strategy should currently rely on herd immunity or immunity passports because these are unknowns (as the man on the BBC said it is a major area of uncertainty) but they arent saying that there is no immunity AT ALL from it just that 4 months in there isnt enough evidence to state something either way. In which case caution is the best approach

changemind That’s the kind of rash he had - his fever went down but he was still coughing a lot, then he suddenly got blotchy red skin with itchy chicken pox type blisters on his body. Gp referred us to a&e but the rash disappeared before we got there. After that came the cold sores, now they’ve more or less healed (2 weeks later!) he’s got a sore throat and a cough. It’s endless!

And a possibly “interesting” point re the at risk groups - ds is mixed East Asian/white.

So apparently it's the delightful Priti Patel giving the daily Corona briefing this afternoon.

The UK death total (hospital only!) has now passed 20K at 20,319 deaths. I suspect the actual death total from Covid-19 is more like 40K if you add in care home deaths and those at home.

Passed the best case scenario of 20k and are we even 15 percent through?

I heard A+ blood is a risk factor. Is the Asian genetic to do with that cartoon giraffe?

If correct that there is not protection generated from previous infection, presumably the medics who have had it and returned to work on the front line will start to get it again and report back.

Yes @Inkpaperstars but it depends how long. It may last only months but not years.

have they change from a second wave to a second peak. She clearly said peak which I think is slightly different to a second wave

And has he had chicken pox before - sorry all the questions lol just finding your sons case rather interesting

Caution. Exactly that. It's still very early days. We don't yet know enough about this virus. Except that it's very contagious with a high mortality rate. It looks possibly like there is some kind of immunity as we aren't seeing high numbers of reinfections or deaths in those who've already had it. So far. Whether or not it lies dormant is another issue.

@Butterer Where do you live? Unless you're in one of worse affected areas it's likely very low risk to go for a walk. Even in London or Birmingham it should be fine if you socially distance. Wear a mask if you're worried. Even makeshift ones offer some protection.

I hope you manage to get outside Butterer agoraphobia is very hard to deal with. I'm sorry you're having to deal with it. We can't pretend Covid isn't a risk but with some basic precautions we can limit our personal risks. Masks won't give one hundred percent protection but they do help. Would it help to try going out at a quieter time? Early mornings or late evening when less people are about?

That’s ok changemind I do remember hearing something about people with A type blood being more susceptible - and (East?) Asian people having more of the Ace2 receptors, although I don’t know how much concrete evidence there is for either of those theories. I’ve definitely heard that the majority of people have type A blood in Japan. Google tells me 40%.

He has had chicken pox before, and the gp we spoke to did wonder if it was a 2nd bout. It came and went within about 24 hours though, and the fever had gone before the rash came up so they thought it was more likely to be a post viral rash. Thankfully I didn’t read about the covid/rash link until after his rash had gone or I would have been (more!) worried!

The weird thing is though, if it even was coronavirus, that dh is completely East Asian, type A blood, ex heavy smoker - it should have hit him hard. He’s been fine

It does sound like he's had a bit of a hit to the immune system. Poor boy being unwell for so long. I hope he gets over it all soon

"Coronavirus is causing the blood of sufferers to form large clots and create strokes in people in their 30s and 40s with no underlying conditions."
<a class="break-all" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/#click=t.co/ygfDSNOr4i" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/#click=t.co/ygfDSNOr4i

I was wondering about the clots if its dehydration because of the lung fluid or white blood cells trying to attack.
But i reckon some covid de aths will be down as heart attack or stroke.

The care home news is devastating, how can they still not be testing?

15 residents at single Welsh care home have died in a month

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/care-home-deaths-wales-coronavirus-18142381

Because their families should take them out of there

I don't know keep distance. I've high blood pressure and can't remember the in and out of it right now but it's associated with blood clots in my experience