Are you going to send your kids back in when they reopen?

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Wondering if people will send them back.
As they think only 4-10% of population might have had it. And this peak was only 4w of school.
Im not shielding but isolating as much as possible because im
asthmatic.

I hope they say attendance isnt mandatory so people who need to/want to or are still WFH can keep them home if needed.

It’s the suggestion we should stay in lockdown until there is a vaccine, there may never be a vaccine. Fear is taking over rational thinking, at some point we have to return to work and school or our social structure will break down.

gin You seem to be picking and choosing what is rational based on how you want people to behave.

I think you're being a bit ridiculous suggesting there may never be a vaccine.

At the moment, 10 000 have died in a matter of weeks. It's actually quite rational to feel some fear about that. It's not rational to worry that there may never be a vaccine because the experts aren't suggesting that.

I agree with gin- we dont know when a vaccine will be available- it might be autumn, it might be next spring, it might be next summer. I hope to God its sooner rather than later but we simply dont know do we?
Calling for lockdown until a vaccine is found is simply untenable.

Why do you think there will be a vaccine when they don’t even know if we have a natural immunity? Also will you trust a vaccine that’s been rushed through? Most vaccines take at least 4 years to develope

I’m saying whether there is a vaccine or not we will have to return to normal in the not so distant future

The Mayor of new york summed it up sensibly today - a gradual return when scientists think that is right but that that must work like cogs in a wheel - you need transport, schools open to get people back to work so it all has to fit together and then if infections ratchet right back up you need them to scale back.

@Davincitoad - don't be so silly. There are plenty of teachers who have continued working to support the children of key workers. I have no idea if (m)any have become ill after being infected by a child but you can pick up the virus anywhere, anytime. Teachers are not at any greater or lesser risk than most of the population (well less than frontline NHS staff of course). Since a vaccine isn't appearing any time soon and probably won't be given to children when it does, do you think schools should remain closed indefinetly?

My kids will be going back to school when the gates re-open. If you've performed the mental gymnastics to interpret that as me feeling indifferent to the health of their teachers so be it.

The problem with MN is the assumption that there's only one right way to think or do things. It means we can't have differing opinions without feeling it necessary to prove others wrong.

It's ok to have different attitudes to risk.

It's ok to prioritise important things in slightly different orders.

It's ok to find someone else's choice slightly bewildering and just leave it there without attaching a label to it.

A month ago people were asking if anyone was still planning to go on holiday in the next few weeks and a fair chunk posters responded "Yes, why wouldn't I?" At the time I found it hard to credit because it wouldn't have been my position. But those posters are clearly not going to sit at home for the next year and who is to say they're wrong? They'd have been wrong to tell everyone else they must go on holiday but, like sending your children to school, these are personal decision with personal advantages and risks.

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I believe the NHS have found that they are still open for business other than COVID-19 BECAUSE the lockdown has prevented them becoming overwhelmed by COVID-19 cases.

@xenia I remember you saying that you thought there should be no lock down and that people should just be allowed to die, so forgive me if I don't trust anything you say about when this should all end.

I haven't seen anyone saying they will not send their kids back until their kids are vaccinated. This is a strawman being posted.
I and others have said we will send our kids back when it is low risk.
What is being said is that kids get it mildly anyway, so it does not matter of they get it. As if there are not parents, grandparents, teachers and TAs who will get infected by infected kids, and as if there is not vulnerable children.

If we were sending our kids back to get infected there would have been no point in the lock down. We would have just accepted that up to half a million people will die.
I will send my kids back when the chance of them getting infected is low risk and not before.

You can't treat a public health emergency as an individual choices game.
Some of those people who went abroad on holiday are now stuck and asking for government help.
Some of the people choosing to ignore lock down rules and holding parties are spreading the virus.
Individual choices does not work for a pandemic. Pandemics need public health decisions.

Quote The Mayor of new york summed it up sensibly today - a gradual return when scientists think that is right but that that must work like cogs in a wheel - you need transport, schools open to get people back to work so it all has to fit together and then if infections ratchet right back up you need them to scale back.

But NYC schools are closed until September. He said there will be more key workers allowed back to work.

But NYC schools are closed until September.

Sounds reasonable

Yes parts of the NHS is definitely not working as normal - Cancer patients in particular are having their treatment changed or delayed. Our two local surgeries are shut and there is now a hub

We also cant necessarily compare US schools being shut now until September we us - States vary between the end of May until the end of June for finishing so it makes sense that they will close then

When do NYC schools close normally?

I would think there is a reasonable chance that Scottish schools will reopen in August.

They finish at end of June anyway there's less reason to open at beginning of June for example.

The go back mid August.

I thought most American schools finished before us?

Meanwhile many key workers have to send there kids to school now so they can treat us or so we have electric , water etc maybe we should think how they feel
I will send mine back when they open as I don’t think they will be open anytime soon and without any consideration . If you aren’t going to send yours but one of you goes back to work and you continue to go shopping is that not still a risk and if you keep them from school I take it you will also keep them from all after school activities and stop them going out still as well ? If obviously they go back and there is cases in school I would re assess and constantly monitor .

Quartz agree it just didn't fit with what Xenia said or what I heard watching Andrew Cuomo but I was watching on sky so I may have missed this to be fair.

For all those saying they'll be sending their children back to school as soon as possible, are you aware that social distancing, which is one of the best ways of preventing the spread of COVID, is going to be virtually impossible in a school setting?
The Department for Education has issued guidelines about this, there is no way what they are recommending is actually going to happen in reality.
Your child might be OK, they might have no or very mild symptoms, but what about you as their parents, their grandparents, other friends and relatives who might not be so lucky?
That's my main concern around sending children back too soon. They will spread it far and wide and create a surge in cases, and there's no way of knowing how serious this could be until we try it.

When do NYC schools close normally?

Seems about June 26th 2-3 weeks before England

Here's the current DfE guidelines for social distancing in a school setting.

I would send my kids to school but I wouldn't visit my parents.

But realistically even if schools don't open its not something we can do for a very long term.

Unless we do indeed get immunity (at least for a time).

But we can keep going whilst trying to keep others safe once we get the other side of the peak.

Perhaps teachers who are vulnerable could teach those who stay at home remotely?

I don't know the solutions- I'm glad I don't have to make the decisions.

refraction 3 1/2 weeks earlier than us

I'm considering keeping him home.
Partly for health reasons.
Partly because he seems to be happier and learning more at home.
He has suspected ASD and ADHD and a bit of a spikey academic profile. Years ahead in some things and badly behind in others.
This way he can work at his own pace and indulge his special interests.
He seems more relaxed and happier as well.