Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Covid

Mumsnet doesn't verify the qualifications of users. If you have medical concerns, please consult a healthcare professional.

Worried About Coronavirus- thread 37

999 replies

TheStarryNight · 10/04/2020 00:27

New thread

OP posts:
Thread gallery
26
refraction · 10/04/2020 22:42

Whynot

I am a science teacher too. It is very sad.

mrshoho · 10/04/2020 22:48

@EducatingArti yes in effect it delays more people getting it at this stage. What an uncertain imediate future ahead. Could it just die out eventually?

buttermilkwaffles · 10/04/2020 23:20

Front page story on the Times newspaper:
mobile.twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1248721839947501568

Worried About Coronavirus- thread 37
HeIenaDove · 11/04/2020 01:49

42 days is the maximum amount of time you can be away from your social housing property without risking losing your tenancy.

........well as long as some busybody SH tenant hater and there are a few of them on this site doesnt report the property as being left and then the housing association class it as abandoned.

So how would #PickforBritain work in these cases.

IwantKoalas · 11/04/2020 02:51

Neighbors at the door again, 🙄 begun declining to answer and shouting, "social distancing"

IwantKoalas · 11/04/2020 02:53

I have always been more antisocial but I don't understand people

LilacTree1 · 11/04/2020 02:55

Koalas - what do they want?!

IwantKoalas · 11/04/2020 02:56

Help lol

LilacTree1 · 11/04/2020 03:01

Koalas

They want help? I’m confused. Your posts are always a bit cryptic.

IwantKoalas · 11/04/2020 03:06

No I wouldn't say so really. They just been drinking with other neighbors it looks like. At least I'll get some herd immunity protection from them

Petiolaris · 11/04/2020 04:48

42 days is the maximum amount of time you can be away from your social housing property without risking losing your tenancy

HelenaDove I said exactly this a few days ago on another thread. Tenants can’t just swan off to pick fruit or to isolate with family. I have plenty of room for my Mum to isolate with me but if she did she’d lose her council bungalow. She once came to stay with me for three weeks and was reported and investigated. That’s before you even consider the hassle of getting off benefits to pick fruit and back on again - there could potentially be a gap in benefits of several weeks, during which people can’t buy food or pay their rent.

MurrayTheMonk · 11/04/2020 07:48

I still don't understand how they know we are at the 'peak' if we aren't widely testing.or counting at home deaths. Beginning to think they don't know either 🤷🏽‍♀️.

I know I'm at peak virus. It's been a looong week again and I'm currently at the end of a loooong line waiting for Tesco to open.

Our colleagues Facebook was going mad yesterday as lots of families and groups of people congregated down by the river (where no one ever usually goes-yesterday it was like peak summer at St Tropez apparently). It's just infuriating.

Care home update-have enough masks to last us til Tuesday when I will have to go and stand in another line to get some more LA ones. Our head office central order has again been delayed for delivery.

We have one very sick service user ( the one who spat in my eye during the week). It's horrible watching her get worse.

Should have a few more staff back in next week however- as long as the ones who are well don't go off sick-I might be able to work more like my normal hours which will be a relief. Putting on double care shifts for weeks on end is a younger woman's game! (I'm 40 but I feel about 65 this morning. Everything hurts Grin)

MurrayTheMonk · 11/04/2020 07:49

Colleagues Facebook? Village that was meant to say!

Forgone90 · 11/04/2020 07:51

Multiple locjdowns is really not an option.. Do you expect the government the cough up £300 billion every time... They will gradually release restrictions... The nhs has many more ventilators and hospitals now the the capacity is much higher... Once restrictions are lifted they will not be returning!

CrunchyCarrot · 11/04/2020 07:52

Re the peaking - without any intervention of social distancing, lockdowns, isolation etc, the curve would have risen more sharply into a huge peak, would almost certainly overwhelm the NHS and many would die, until coronavirus had run through all the population and then petered out. I think most of us realise that. By implementing lockdown etc fewer people will get the virus and spread it, so the rate of increase is slower, and the curve will be flatter.

Now, whilst we all obey social distancing, a peak will be reached and then the cases and deaths will begin to decline. This peak is obviously way lower than the unchecked spread peak would have been. And is hopefully within the capacity of the NHS. It is a man-made lower peak, but the minute we break ranks and begin more normal activities, the virus will begin spreading again and cases will begin to rise again, and thence deaths. So we have created an artificial much lower peak earlier than the catastrophic later huge peak would have been (i.e. the lower peak is to the left of the unchecked huge peak), but of course by now we would already have a much higher death toll if the virus had been left unchecked, so already the death rate would be higher than the peak we currently have (or are heading towards).

We should see death rates begin to decrease, and this means the curve will flatten. Once more normal life begins, depending how soon they relax the rules, we could see cases of the virus begin an upswing again, and thus we could enter a second wave. Will it be larger, smaller, who knows, I think that would depend on exactly how they relax the lockdown rules. I think they'd need to keep shielding the most vulnerable but we've all seen that's not a straightforward thing to do.

There's no question a huge amount will be learned about viral spread during this outbreak, we are unfortunately guinea pigs this time round!

CrunchyCarrot · 11/04/2020 07:56

I still don't understand how they know we are at the 'peak' if we aren't widely testing.or counting at home deaths. Beginning to think they don't know either

I don't think they can possibly know. Perhaps they are just looking at equations and conjecturing, or maybe they are just telling us all that in the hopes everyone will stay locked down in the hopes this will be over shortly (that clearly isn't working for some anyway!).

Based on how the govt was telling us that we the public have only a certain level of 'tolerance' for being constrained as we are, I don't expect them to be 100% honest.

MarshaBradyo · 11/04/2020 08:00

The peak will be based on hospital tests / or maybe deaths. That’s ok there will be a lag but you probably need that distance from cases at peak anyway before lifting restrictions.

Stilllivinghere · 11/04/2020 08:10

Surely they are looking at hospital admissions? When hospital admission reduce in numbers, we will have past the peak.

SummerSazz · 11/04/2020 08:25

A Ray of sunshine not being reported by the mainstream media. Source the mirror online of all places so no idea of validity and 80% not being too committal but great if true:

UK scientists 80% confident coronavirus vaccine could be ready by September

Professor Sarah Gilbert, from Oxford University, says she is "80% confident" her team has developed an effective coronavirus vaccine with trials set to begin in two weeks UK scientists are hopeful that a coronavirus vaccine could be ready as soon as September.
Sarah Gilbert, a professor of vaccinology at Oxford University, says she is "80% confident" that a jab being developed by her team will be proved effective by the autumn.

The Times reports that human trials are set to begin on the vaccine in a fortnight, making it one of the most promising efforts in the world.
The UK government has also indicated that, if results look positive, it is prepared to fund millions of doses in advance.
This means that if the tests are successful, an immunisation against Covid-19 would be widely available to the public immediately.

With medical experts fearing that lifting lockdown measures will lead to a fresh surge in infections, a return to normal life relies heavily on finding a vaccine that works.

Although it has been estimated this will take 18 months, Professor Gilbert has said that in a best-case scenario her team could have one ready by September.
She had previously said she hoped it could be developed by the end of the year.

"I think there's a high chance that it will work based on other things that we have done with this type of vaccine," she said.
"It's not just a hunch and as every week goes by we have more data to look at. I would go for 80 percent, that's my personal view."

However, she also warned that "nobody can promise it's going to work."
Prof Gilbert, who has been working seven days a week to put the vaccine through development stages, added that her researchers will need to trial it in a country with a high rate of transmission to get quick results.

Her team is one of dozens worldwide who have been racing to find a way to immunise people against the devastating flu-like virus.
Health experts believe that coronavirus mutates at a slower rate than other respiratory viruses, particularly flu.

This has led to hopes that once a jab is widely available it will provide protection against the highly contagious Covid-19 and any further strains which develop, for several years.
It comes as the number of daily coronavirus deaths in the UK passed the peaks in Spain and Italy for the first time.
Some 8,958 people died in the UK after testing positive for Covid-19 as of 5pm yesterday - a rise of 980 on the day before.

The daily rise of 980 outstrips the UK's previous biggest jump of 938.
And for the first time it means the UK has recorded more new deaths in one day than Italy and Spain did at their peak.
Italy recorded 971 new deaths on March 28 while Spain recorded 950 on April 3, according to the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control.

CharlieTangoBanana · 11/04/2020 08:59

My next door neighbours have got their two sons, wives and three grandchildren visiting, one family live 350 miles away, the other 60 miles.
They have tried to hide the visitors cars around the back of the house.
I'm gobsmacked as one of the grandchildren has a genetic condition which puts him at extra risk.
They will absolutely know it's me that's reported them as the visitors cars can only be seen from our upstairs.
I'm fucking livid.

peridito · 11/04/2020 09:06

reaching the peak

This from Guardian blog

In the UK, heath Secretary Matt Hancock said it was still too early to determine whether the peak of coronavirus infections in the UK had been reached.
He told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme: “The good news is we have seen the number of hospital admissions starting – starting, I stress – to flatten out.

RedToothBrush · 11/04/2020 09:08

Singapore is now in lockdown after the virus has gone out of control there and they are now unable to trace all local transmissions.

CrunchyCarrot · 11/04/2020 09:18

My next door neighbours have got their two sons, wives and three grandchildren visiting, one family live 350 miles away, the other 60 miles.

People are really being stupid, selfish twats over this, aren't they!

CrunchyCarrot · 11/04/2020 09:21

In order for the vaccine to be distributed in the autumn, Professor Gilbert says the Government will need to start production before it is proven to work.

She told the paper: "We don't want to get to later this year and discover we have a highly effective vaccine and we haven't got any vaccine to use."

That's quite a gamble, though. If it's not that effective the govt will have wasted lots of money and resources.

www.itv.com/news/2020-04-11/coronavirus-vaccine-could-be-ready-by-autumn-says-oxford-professor-sarah-gilbert/

Swipe left for the next trending thread