Police tell family they’re not allowed in front garden

[LilacTree1]

Bloody ridiculous

Video and story here

twitter.com/syptweet/status/1248294700827709440

They're going to lose the law abiding, tax paying middle, the traditional majority, mass supporters of the police over this. They're losing the middle

This is one of the things that worries me most
I've got huge respect for the vast majority of decent, sensible officers, but they really do need to get a grip on the idiots if they expect policing by consent to continue

Especially when they deem it okay to stand on a London bridge clapping like seals but not, apparently, to stand in your own garden

Lancashire Police trending on Twitter due to this.

twitter.com/SpanishDan1/status/1251456959326412804?s=20

Interesting tweet from the Goverment

What are the rules?

Lancashire police apology

Omg that video gives me the chills. That officer should be dismissed immediately.

Well, I think it’s true at the moment

I made sure to do certain things before the legislation got through on the Thursday

Ive just become aware of the government”s other promos- see second second tweet for a few pics. Designed to create fear.

Sorry, here’s the tweet!

twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1251454830679392256

The police office who said he would make something up needs to be sacked immediately for gross misconduct and not given a good reference. That is utterly unacceptable.

Also the guidance re. the other advert is not the law. Some of the guidance goes beyond the law and thus can be ignored . If the Gov wants to change the law it needs to get new regulations passed by parliament - www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/350/contents/made

Xenia, I’ve seen that link many times but I don’t know how to interpret it to understand the difference between rules and law

I thought I would be actually breaking the law if I got a bus to a park, for example.

Re: Lambeth Council, that will absolutely be true. They have packs of enforcers roaming their parks in groups of ten at the weekends, trying to make people leave.

I’ve posted elsewhere that I was told to leave for stopping my run for a drink of water, other people were told to leave for doing body weight exercises (lunges, push-ups etc), people with small children were being approached because the toddler wasn’t moving quickly enough.

I thought they were council employees but have since heard they are random and completely untrained volunteers - basically the kind of curtain-twitchers who spend their weekdays phoning the police about Doris next door leaving the house twice. Then at weekends they are given a Lambeth tabard and told to harass law-abiding park users.

Christmas did you complain?

Who to? They are volunteers. Lambeth don’t care what they get up to.

Christmas I’d still complain- to the council, the mayor, the Home Secretary, local MP. Just one email will do. If you can face it, use social media.

Lilac, those regulations (the law) say you can go out to exercise. They do not prevent you driving to exercise.

However if you pushed it a bit and drove 2 hours to a country park in my view it would be reasonable to say the law i.e. the linked regulations was possibly broken but not for definite. Simialrly the regulations do NOT limit in any way the number of times you can go out a day to exercise so if you went to court over that point you might well win.

I don't think people should push it too much however as hopefully it will all be over in 3 weeks but we do need to keep very careful watch on any abuse of power by police and the Government or we could move in a sleep like state into a police state without noticing with covid as the pretext just as lots of new laws are brought in to "stop terrorism" or protect children from child porn and then used for all kinds of purposes - it is a classic thing for Big States to use laws for what seems a good reason to strip rights and freedoms and keep them in place for other uses.

Xenia, thanks

No mention of public transport, don’t know whether to assume that means it’s not covered.

It won’t be over in three weeks

I think London will be like this till end of June. The start of June will be very optimistic, and I mean for slight relaxation of rules.

Lilac, my view is you can use public transport to travel to your exercise although that would not mean a 3 hour train journey to the Lake District, perhaps just one bus ride.

On the other hand everyone can travel to work any way they like as many people are still going and travel whilst at work (unless a rare person who can work from home or in a job that is closed like a pub).

Xenia
That’s interesting because there’s a nature reserve I coukd walk in instead of this crowded place

But it’s a 20 min bus ride and TFL woukd say, no!