Police tell family they’re not allowed in front garden

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Bloody ridiculous

Video and story here

twitter.com/syptweet/status/1248294700827709440

I just came on to.see if the latest one was being discussed. I was so shocked about that man being arrested, and the police officer threatening passers by 'you'll be next'! For what? It looked like the only ones breaking guidelines were the officers.

How many people have been harassed off camera, I wonder? Some police officers are properly milking the current situation.

Whole lot of "look how fab we are" in the update.

£2 million for domestic violence support, when it was already starved of funding is PATHETIC.

No real harm was done

This time. But what about the next time the cameras aren't around. It's not like this is one isolated incident this time. What about all those who haven't been recorded so there is no actual evidence?

Just like many industries, the police have policies in place to stamp this out quickly, and for many, this will fall under Gross Misconduct.

Constantly popping up all over the country mention sorry, mistake blah blah is a waste of time and leads to complacency. And along with this complacency comes the eventual loss of lives.

Will it only become a slight problem when someone once again dies in a cell?

Or when they are wrongfully charged. Potentially this fucking asshole officer could have got that guys arse landed in prison on remand. For what exactly? How long should someone completely innocent spend locked up before any harm is done?

What about those he was helping? Or even bystanders told basically they are next to be nicked.

Yea can see right there no real harm done. Tell that to innocent people framed by corrupt cops. Tell that to those who know the innocent person it's ok, no real harm done, 6 months behind bars. Those who were illegally obtained on fabricated charges, unfortunately, didn't have a witness to film it.

Oh, I know some will blatantly deny it all even with years and years and years of evidence to show otherwise. Funny the police can hold us accountable for basically anything they can randomly think of, but we aren't allowed to talk about it. Quite obvious really then how badly corrupt it is when colleagues come along and support abhorrent behaviour. Any other industry colleagues would be backing away as far as possible not trying to find ways to excuse thuggish, bullying behaviour.

Mum was in the supermarket queue and said the two ladies in front of her were questioned, by police, for being together.

They are flat sharers.

There are women who are being harassed long term by men and the police won't "have a word" as that's a bit tricky apparently, one word against another's But they'll take neighbour reports and go "have a word" over being in the garden or going shopping. That's one word over the other's, but this apparently is fine.

They can do it, can't they? Clearly, demonstrably. They just don't want to do it to help domestic violence victims. They want only to have a go at ordinary people going about their lawful business.

And Pic as we both know some of those arseholes will also use their 'uniform' to add to her issues, and of course males in similar situations who are blatantly laughed out of police stations and mocked.

Oops, yea not supposed to be talking about this. Perfectly fine to bully people, to intimidate someone, and probably a few other laws, just as long as they wear a uniform perfectly legal apparently.

Shame costume shops are closed, I could make a fortune putting on a uniform and fining people on the spot for bullshit reasons. And I could legally get away with it apparently.

Watching the video, I’m intrigued by the “I saw you coming back from the shop with two cans of pop” comment. Has she been following him? Is he known to her? He’s off out again to Aldi, is he perhaps pushing the guidelines to the limit and she knows it and it is pissing her off?

The police have no right to pick on someone just because they've previously pissed them off. Pushing the guidelines to the limit is not a criminal offence,
If anything the police will now need to leave him completely alone otherwise it'll look like they're just trying to set him up.

The regulations allow you to go out to buy food and to bring food to family and to work and to do all sorts. The police should concentrate on large groups. Eg my son shares a house with 6 others so that is 7 who can be together and obey the law for example. We had 7 in my house at one point - I have 5 children. The police need to back off or they will lose the respect of people. We pay their wages. They need to have a copy of the regulations with them at all times - not instructions from their bosses but what the law says. www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/350/made/data.pdf

For example it says you can go out to exercise - so yet that can be swimming, yoga or any exercise as long as you keep away from people with whom you do not live and if you are homeless you are subject to none of the restrictions at all.

There are women who are being harassed long term by men and the police won't "have a word" as that's a bit tricky apparently, one word against another's But they'll take neighbour reports and go "have a word" over being in the garden or going shopping. That's one word over the other's, but this apparently is fine.

They can do it, can't they? Clearly, demonstrably. They just don't want to do it to help domestic violence victims. They want only to have a go at ordinary people going about their lawful business.

This is absolutely totally and utterly rubbish . Totally without evidence or foundation. Show me the evidence please?

Because in my force any suggestion of harassment is crimed at a section 2 stalking and dealt with accordingly. And I'm in South Yorkshire. You are simply lying to further your cause and I'll challenge you to the nth degree in this because I have the evidence to suggest you are a liar with an agenda.

People are stupid enough to believe propaganda like you are peddling. I challenge it . As a police officer I can categorically challenge this as absolute rubbish.

There are home office counting rules. The moment an allegation is made its counted.

So much of this thread is absolute total and utter rubbish, but all great press .

Anyone with half a brain needs to ask some more searching questions than believe this absolute rubbish.

And - if you feel that pn me - I will advise you .

I used to lose here as a fairly well known poster and I never hid what I did for a living. I helped loads of posters

If you are a victim of harassment pm me. I will help you and I will advise you . I'm absolutely sick and tired of the misinformation. There is a process in law - no one is above it . Police act on EVIDENCE. If the evidence is there then it's easy . If it's he said she said whose side do you think we should take ? Policing is evidence based .
We scoop evidence up and present it to cps in any domestic situation. Then it's down to them to decide .

So hang on as a self-proclaimed officer of the law, you are saying to us that in order to get information that should and is actually, already publically available, but instead send you secret PMS;

That is two of the many issues. That blatant need for secrecy. The blatant assumptions to presume you have enough information about us. To know who we are and what we do is ingrained in your opinion of us.

Funny though coming from someone who is trying to convince us that we are chatting shit about the behaviour of some power-tripping officers. What do we know right?

@mrsradley Oh you came back and now you're offering private police consultations via pm!

If we point out how fucked up that is, are you going to flounce again? You'll let us know at least, won't you?

Ah, you're in South Yorkshire? Explains a lot about the earlier emotional blackmail attempts.

There are loads of videos of naice middle class people bouncing around doing aerobics in the street together. I haven't seen any examples of them being threatened by police and warned to stay inside. But clearly if you're poor and live in a rough area you can't even use your front garden. We have shameful 2-tier policing in this country and it's been publically exposed. Action will have to be taken.

Ok I give up.
All publicly available information is exactly that.
I aren't offering private consultations - I said pm as I didn't think anyone would want to publicly give details .

My advice will always be if you're a victim of crime , report it .

There are victim charters to try facilitate better communication between officers and victims .

I joined later in life after raising a child with special needs - lots of life experience and a passion for doing the right thing by anyone who I come into contact with. You can't always get the results you want. Police are impartial evidence gatherers, the decisions are made higher up - with domestic abuse its CPS - maybe historically things were different.
I'm not defending bad practice.
Take care and stay safe all .

To clarify I don't work for South Yorkshire. I live there .

I think most forces however now operate along the same lines with regards domestic abuse /harassment etc.

The police have always had a two tier system. They constantly get exposed for racial profiling. Have done so for decades. The come out with we are sorry mistakes were made blah blah blah. It won’t happen again.

And look what happens when people do start talking publicly. On come the police telling us all stop talking and PM for public info. Why the need for such secrecy? And there lies the main problem.

They clearly do think they are better than everyone else. Thinking they can come and close down conversations.

It’s quite easy really. Rather than boo hoo hurty feelz. Feel sorry for us. Instead of decades of talking absolute bollocks follow through and have a zero tolerance policy. But of course it’s too easy. Where the fun in that?

And even when shown video evidence. Look how quickly it took for someone from the force to come along and talk about how they feel fucking victimised.

And if there really was no harm done then of course no-one was hurt. So no victim right? So how does that translate into some random colleague of a victimless crime have hurt feelings?

Oh course I know the answer. Most of us do.

You never mentioned it was all public info. Why not also say that on the post? Instead come behind closed doors so I can give you advice based on if you personally think a crime has been committed.

I think all forces now do...
Oh so crimes aren’t based on local police forces?

I know it happens in NHS we all talk about it. They don’t tell us to go away and call names. They engage. So why not the police?

Surely we should know if an area has DV support so we can avoid living in some Stone Age town? And you would think policies like this would be a standard across all area. Just like every other industry including NHS and Education

To clarify I don't work for South Yorkshire. I live there.

So you were just trying to emotionally blackmail people for discussing police breaking the law upthread because you can't tolerate it in any form then? Bet South Yorkshire Police haven't come and harassed you for the crime of standing in your own garden.

My advice will always be if you're a victim of crime , report it .

And someone should PM personal information to obtain that unique insight...

Like most people I have huge respect for the police BUT some officers are going a bit too far and thankfully we now have smart phones which can record them and bring them to book. That is always the best evidence to have whether investigating a crime and you want CCTV or a victim of the police over reaching their powers.

Hopefully we will soon end the lock down and we can go back to normal (and the masses of people walking up our private road will go back as I have never it so crowded nor so much litter - why can't they walk up here without dropping litter? No one usually drops litter on the road)

"Police are impartial evidence gatherers"

What, all of them? They're all able to be impartial all of the time.

Give me a break.

Mrsradkey, that was quite some phrasing to imply you work for SYP.