Police tell family they’re not allowed in front garden

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Bloody ridiculous

Video and story here

twitter.com/syptweet/status/1248294700827709440

This is absolutely totally and utterly rubbish . Totally without evidence or foundation. Show me the evidence please?

As a police officer I can categorically challenge this as absolute rubbish

Nonsense.
And thank you for being yet another police officer to side eye and doubt my account.
QED, as they say.

I've experienced it first hand myself. That's my evidence.

We all know about the grooming gangs given free reign and many of us women have had disappointing experiences with the police ourselves as well as seen women we know have the same.

Police act on EVIDENCE.

The whole point here is that as regards coronavirus legislation enforcement, some police have not been acting on evidence. They have acted on neighbour reports and simply seeing someone out of their house which is not illegal, therefore not evidence of any crime. And yet they "cannot" do this to assist vulnerable women.

If you are a victim of harassment pm me. I will help you and I will advise you

The fuck will I hand out my personal details to a stranger on the internet, no less one who claims to be a police officer, is expressing outrage towards me, and alleges I'm lying about the police. The fuck. 😂

I agree the police have a hard job but I would prefer they dealt with large groups of youths who are clearly not from the same house messing around in public and leave individual people alone.

It’s really important to keep discussing this

I’m getting friends tell me that the police have to do this

No, they don’t. If there was no one else to drop shopping to mum, I should not risk being pepper sprayed if I do it.

If the offer of help was for legit reasons the fact that it’s all publicly available would have been mentioned then.

Instead nope let’s chat in secret so I can basically convince you your not the victim.

Instead this was only mentioned afterwards.

As someone who claims they are a bias establishment, well by not giving all info, it really looks dodgy as fuck tbph.

And how can this officer have hurt feelings? The narrative seems to be no harm was done, so how can an officer, in a different force, Feel hurt?
There is no victim remember?

That really tells us a lot. Coming on a thread talking about police acting illegally because we all know if he weren’t in uniform he would have been arrested. And tried to turn on the sympathy tap boo hoo poor me.

And where was that concern for the actual victim in this? The poor bastard who I hope presses charges against him.

I know how hard that can be for some people because of the harassment. And don’t get too excited, as I said, some people. I have mh enjoyed it before it was quickly locked down after 6 months and got paid for well, for having fun 🤣 And I’m not going to give them pleasure and explain

I was being legit - if you have had a bad experience with the police the person to speak to first is the officer who had your case .

Above them is a sergeant.
Above them is an inspector. There are obviously higher ranks but complaints about an individual case or how something is handled go through the rank structure first .

If a case has gone to cps for a decision then a cps lawyer has made the decision. There is an appeals process .

I am not the enemy. I have worked on many many domestic abuse cases and got some fantastic results for victims and I've gone above and beyond.

I am really not wanting to be out on frontline duties right now as I'm as worried as everyone else re the risk from covid 19. , but needs must
.the job of the police is to ask questions- fundamentally that's what we do. Even an arrest is to gather evidence through questioning.

The days where police can go "have a word" are over . If you have evidence of harassment, (ie - a course of conduct) and you support a prosecution (ie- are willing to give a statement and go to court if necessary) then the evidence should go to the cps for them to make a decision on charging .

That's how domestic abuse or harassment cases work.

Sometimes I come across people that shouldn't be in the job but thankfully not very often. And they rarely last. The other thing - and not an excuse you any stretch- but many frontline officers are going off sick themselves and self isolating so people who have not been operational for a long time are being drafted back to frontline duties. Things may have changed a lot and moved on since they were frontline. .

Now it seems my genuine desire to help has been misconstrued. I name change regularly and will again - nothing I've said is "dodgy " . I was willing to try and give some insight into how the law works and sadly people don't always get what they want . That's not usually the fault of the police .

mrsradley your posts are incredibly aggressive, manipulative and and gaslighting and I hope to God that you are not really a police officer, because God help us all if you are. I’m honestly shocked at the breathtaking level of vitriol and abuse you have launched at DV victims, and the frankly bizarre efforts you’ve put into twisting women’s words to paint them as villains. It’s terrifying to think that someone with such extreme rage issues, black and white thinking, and fury at being questioned or not blindly accepted as an unquestioned authority has any kind of power over others.

For example making a blanket statement, “I have EVIDENCE that you are lying to promote an agenda” just because someone makes a comment about how in her experience sometimes police don’t take DV cases seriously enough.

Unless you personally know every single police officer in the entire UK, and have access to records for the countless hundreds of millions of situations like this (meaning you’d need to be literally omnipotent) there is simply no logical way to conclude that the poster is “lying” rather than that she simply had an experience that is not identical to yours.

There are tens of thousands of reports online and in the national press of police refusing to act in DV cases. There have been court cases where women have been murdered after police refused to act on stalking/DV, and these have been well documented in the press. Only a few weeks before lockdown a friend of mine was nominated for a major award for a documentary about staking and poor police response to it.

Yet you RAAAAAAAAGE and gaslight and deny that this has ever happened ever, and insist not only is every single woman who reports this a liar, but a deliberate liar with an agenda?? It’s just bizarre. And considering how many woman on MN have personal experience of DV, alarmingly despotic to think if you rage hard enough you can gaslight everyone into thinking their personal experiences never happened.

Terrifying. Utterly, utterly terrifying.

The days where police can go "have a word" are over

That's literally what they're literally doing, literally right now. Literally. They call it "advice".

I'd like them to give the exh some "advice", but no can do, eh.

No doubt plenty of "advice" will be imparted to sunbathers today.

Another “well intentioned” tweet from the police

twitter.com/CentralBedsCPT/status/1249003469098319873

Oh dear. Also people could comply with the law if they ate the sandwiches whilst eating - a kind of running buffet as you can go out to exercise, even if just on a yoga mat kind of exercise and could eat at the same time.

If have a bloody heart attack if the police jumped out from the shadows! How creepy. What are they thinking!

neverenough they have done that in my sister’s park, to accuse people of sitting on benches.

Xenia, you can’t do yoga outside, the police won’t let you

twitter.com/Bexmo/status/1248588173447442432

From the Twitter responses:
"People get big ideas. One minute it’s a few sandwiches and a blanket. The next thing you know there’s a marquee, rum babas, a DJ, and a hundred guests. One picnic is all it takes. Just say no"

😂😂😂

It's just pure, petty clownage. Making complete wallies themselves and losing the respect and buy-in of the public at large. 🤡

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/apr/11/uk-lockdown-police-apologise-after-man-threatened-with-pepper-spray?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

UK lockdown: police apologise after man threatened with pepper spray
The incident in Fallowfield, Manchester, was filmed by neighbours

Greater Manchester police have apologised after a man who said he was delivering food to vulnerable family members was arrested and threatened with pepper spray.

In video footage of the incident, which took place in Fallowfield, Manchester, on Friday, the man can be seen refusing to give police his details after being accused of “breaking Covid guidelines”.

“Give me a ticket for what?” the man says to the officer. “You’re a bored guy. There’s groups of people all over the place.”

The footage, which was filmed by a neighbour, shows the officer repeatedly threatening the man with pepper spray, handcuffing him and telling him to lean against a car

Put your hands on your head or you’re going to get sprayed,” the officer can be heard saying. “Put your hands behind your back.”

“You just keep saying things over and over,” replies the man. “You’re not helping, you’re not diluting the situation, you’re making it worse. Because I come to drop some stuff off.” He complains that the officer has twisted the handcuffs, causing him pain.

A woman can be heard telling the officer: “In the current situation, in the current pandemic, there’s more pressing situations to be dealing with than coming over and bothering somebody going about his business on his own.” The officer tells her: “Listen ... you’ll be next.”

There has been criticism that some police forces are overreaching their lockdown enforcement powers. The Guardian learned on Thursday that police chiefs wanted the government to consider toughening the restrictions, as the Easter bank holiday weekend approached. On Saturday, the chair of the National Police Chiefs’ Council, Martin Hewitt, said police from 37 forces in England and Wales had issued 1,084 fines for breaches of coronavirus regulations as of Thursday, but the number of arrests was unclear.

Greater Manchester police apologised and said that a senior member of the force was speaking to the man and his family.

“Although the matter is being investigated fully by our professional standards branch, our initial review shows that the incident wasn’t dealt with in the professional way we would expect and we apologise for that,” a spokesperson said.

“The public rightly expect the highest standards from our officers and we will investigate this matter thoroughly and properly. We would ask that the public understand the stresses that our officers are working under at present and we hope this apology will be welcome to those involved.”

It is understood the man was arrested under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act and then de-arrested and issued with a fixed penalty notice

Thanks Helena

Im wondering why he got a fixed penalty notice.

Making complete wallies themselves and losing the respect and buy-in of the public at large

Exactly.

According to the Sunday Times the latest gem is telling NHS workers that their NHS IDs aren't sufficient evidence that they are out for a permitted reason.

Really? And we don't have to carry ID in this country anyway, even now.

So how on earth do you prove that you are going supermarket shopping? Will they accept pictures of empty cupboards and fridges?

Luckily our police aren't routinely armed That's what my husband said.

From the Twitter responses:
"People get big ideas. One minute it’s a few sandwiches and a blanket. The next thing you know there’s a marquee, rum babas, a DJ, and a hundred guests. One picnic is all it takes. Just say no"

And the reply:
It's a gateway rug.

According to the Sunday Times the latest gem is telling NHS workers that their NHS IDs aren't sufficient evidence that they are out for a permitted reason.

If they want the NHS front line responders to carry a corporate style office access letter, I'd like to see the same for police. "Where's your Permission To Be Out letter, Officer?" 😂

Luckily our police aren't routinely armed
That's what my husband said.

Christ, that's a thought...

And the reply:
It's a gateway rug.

Stop it 🤣🤣🤣

cologne you mean this?

www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/cambridgeshire-police-tell-addenbrookes-staff-18081286

I'll be honest and say that if the police stopped me and started to get difficult, I would film it.

I wish that social media had been around when the police have gone beyond what they should be doing in the past. The Miner's Strike might have gone very differently

Cambridge police update

twitter.com/CambridgeCops/status/1249334414254968832