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Who or what do you think is to blame for the coronavirus? COVID-19

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haveanicedayx · 07/04/2020 20:11

and do you think any changes will be made in order to prevent / reduce the risk of any other global pandemic in the future.

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ClareVH · 12/04/2020 09:30

So it turns out the lab in Wuhan - where it seems the virus originated - was funded by the US Confused.

Boredbumhead · 12/04/2020 09:31

So it turns out the lab in Wuhan - where it seems the virus originated - was funded by the US confused.

Yep. Big pharma in action.

ClareVH · 12/04/2020 10:02

The whole thing is fucked.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 12/04/2020 10:07

Nature

I have a stupid theory she is kicking our butts for our gross abuse of our planet

Dandarabilla · 12/04/2020 10:09

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BeijingBikini · 12/04/2020 12:48

So it turns out the lab in Wuhan - where it seems the virus originated - was funded by the US confused.

Well yes - look how many nefarious wars the US have started/been involved in over the past few decades. Does this really surprise anyone? If you know something like this is happening in advance, you can make so much money from shorting the stock market then making vaccines

bumblingbovine49 · 12/04/2020 13:01

There is a theory that one of the treasons the developed western world has dominated militarily and economically over the last few hundred years is because they had more immunity from illnesses that they spread around the world ( eg the Incas in South America and the disease brought from Spain etc)
The immunity they built up was to diseases spread because of their close living with animals . Western rural populations historically often shared living space with animals.of.all types . They got.loads of diseases and many people died of them but the survivors were then immune to a lot.of.the diseases. They were then more successful when trying to colonize other areas where indigenous people didn't have the immunity to the diseases the westerners brought with them.

Human development through the ages has been shaped by diseases . Why would things be any different now?

B1rdbra1n · 12/04/2020 13:09

Bumbling I wonder if you have in mind 'guns germs and steel' by Jared diamond?
(Although there are probably other authors who have picked up on the same themes)

MangoFeverDream · 12/04/2020 17:11

Beijing Bikini love the name.

However, Well yes - look how many nefarious wars the US have started/been involved in over the past few decades. Does this really surprise anyone?

No proof that this funding is related. I don’t believe the bat samples from the lab match at all?

BeijingBikini · 12/04/2020 17:21

Thank you Grin inspired by a summer holiday to China years ago!

haveanicedayx · 12/04/2020 17:42

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EC22 · 12/04/2020 17:57

It’s a virus, no one is to blame for it.
The horrific loss of life in the UK is due to British exceptionalism, thinking it wouldn’t happen to us, not taking the necessary steps (testing, contract tracing and quarantine and/ or early lockdown) to avoid this tragedy.

Radyward · 12/04/2020 18:07

Again , China end of.

Boredbumhead · 12/04/2020 18:39

If you know something like this is happening in advance, you can make so much money from shorting the stock market then making vaccines

It also freaks me out that bill gates Foundation had a massive simulation pandemic game conference, just a month before it all happened. It's too freaking.

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MangoFeverDream · 12/04/2020 18:43

It’s a virus, no one is to blame for it.
The horrific loss of life in the UK is due to British exceptionalism, thinking it wouldn’t happen to us, not taking the necessary steps

Did Italy suffer from Italian exceptionalism? Did Iran suffer from Iranian exceptionalism? Did Spain suffer from Spanish exceptionalism?

Nope. China had SARS in 2003 and did nothing to stop it happening again via live wild animal markets. They are very much to blame.

BeijingBikini · 12/04/2020 21:33

@boredbumhead yes and the fact that is seemed to completely predict everything that's actually happened with great accuracy. I read somewhere that they even called the simulated pandemic nCov-2019 though that could be bollocks

CountFosco · 13/04/2020 17:30

eg the Incas in South America and the disease brought from Spain etc

The Americas were physically separated from Europe but the same is not true of Africa or Asia. While it's true that many old world diseases destroyed new world cultures (small pox in particular but also measles and influenza) syphilis came to Europe with Columbus so the spread of disease was not just one way.

My brother is an actuary and a pandemic have been the No1 risk for years. He says nothing that has happened in the last 3 months has surprised him.

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