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Boris in hospital

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Cary2012 · 05/04/2020 21:14

Breaking news.

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CovidCanFKcuOFF · 09/04/2020 21:48

Lweji the politicians rely on their medical advisors and right now we can see arguments flaring up between the different medics in charge.
I suspect several factors are to blame and in particular, sir Patrick valance and his team.

Sir Patrick led a very relaxed, fait accompli approach from the start. It's here, we will all get it, sey la vie.

I can't imagine the response if boris solely went against his chief medical advisors?
Boris also wants to invest in the NHS and build new hospitals.

Or he did...

Lweji · 09/04/2020 21:55

Most people with half a brain would have looked at what happened in other countries.

Johnson will have had a range of opinions to choose from when deciding what to do. His own advisors will have presented different scenarios to him.
It's shocking that the UK was so late in applying measures, particularly when the test and tracking went down the drain.
He knowingly was prepared for people in their thousands to get seriously ill and even die.
He was prepared for the doctors to take up the brunt of lack of measures with not enough beds or equipment.
He fucking went around shaking hands with covid patients.

Yes, let them eat cake. "Them" is the UK and their health workers.

Quartz2208 · 09/04/2020 21:57

I think they just didnt have enough data for the UK the range of fpeak deaths for the UK was between 800-8000 a far wider range than the others.

Looking at their predictions: April 6th 1258 deaths April 7th 1233 April 8th 1433 April pth 1616

So already we are now (now I know that one could argue that we just take into account hospital deaths and the true number is more but all other countries do the same and it takes this data as being correct for those put in)

So I dont think the data is has is reliable for the UK

vera99 · 09/04/2020 22:00

@Lweji my crass Marie Antonette 'jibe' was aimed at Tonyaster 's comment people are so stupid not you...

CovidCanFKcuOFF · 09/04/2020 22:05

Lweji?
How absurd.
Something has happened that's for sure but do I blame boris? No!
He's hardly got going yet as PM, his budget was totally scuppered, he wants to invest in the NHS, and build more hospitals.

The team has let people down but not boris.
He's known for delegation. He didn't seem comfortable with the strategy mooted and a swift u turn was done.

Do I however blame Tony Blair for the atrocious state of the NHS after a decade, of a supposed NHS loving party, yes I do.

Rocketmam · 09/04/2020 22:06

How often do people just pop into ICU for a day or two? Was he not that ill then?

Or is this going to be framed as he is an inspirational hero who fought off covid when he was really only in there as a precaution (and everyone else would have been told to stay home at that stage by 111).

CendrillonSings · 09/04/2020 22:08

How often do people just pop into ICU for a day or two? Was he not that ill then?

Do you know how to count? It was four days.

Tonyaster · 09/04/2020 22:10

I am delighted that he's recovering. Really happy for him, his kids and the country.

Rocketmam · 09/04/2020 22:19

Do you know how to count?

Do you know how the english language works? That phrase isn't literal, it's an idiom.

Devlesko · 09/04/2020 22:19

Oh, has he been ill then? I learned not to listen to newstalk a long time ago.
Glad to hear he's on the mend I'm sure all his children wherever they are will be relieved.

Peregrina · 09/04/2020 22:25

Boris also wants to invest in the NHS and build new hospitals.

Maybe he will get his party to stump up for the 40 new hospitals now.
It will be deeply hurtful to some of the right wingers in his party, who want a small state, and will act as though they are being asked to dip into their own pockets.

I wonder if Boris will make a generous donation to the hospital? They usually have a charity associated with them, which would be the mechanism to do it.

He's known for delegation. Well, that's one way of putting it!

Do I however blame Tony Blair for the atrocious state of the NHS after a decade, of a supposed NHS loving party, yes I do.

Remind us how long Tony Blair has been gone. What stopped the Tories investing in the NHS after 2010, since they now apparently value it so much?

CendrillonSings · 09/04/2020 22:45

Do you know how the english language works? That phrase isn't literal, it's an idiom.

Well you were literally wrong. Maybe try to get your facts right before attacking someone who has to go to ICU?

Aesopfable · 09/04/2020 23:00

Remind us how long Tony Blair has been gone

And yet 17% of money now paid to some NHS trusts each year still has to be spent on repaying the debt incurred then. Imagine how much they could be doing with an extra 17% funding?

CatAndHisKit · 09/04/2020 23:20

'He's known for delegation'. Well, that's one way of putting it!

exactly! Boris is too lightweight to make any serious decisions, he's all about style and presentations which and witty uips - which is fair enough as I'm all for joint cabinet decisions. As far as Covid goes, they all relied on medical advice, what else could they actually do!

CatAndHisKit · 09/04/2020 23:21

*witty quips

TiddyTid · 09/04/2020 23:25

So happy Boris is on the mend. Absolutely can tell it's not the same without him. The man is a leader. Can't wait for him to be back (when he's ready and able of course)

daisychain01 · 10/04/2020 06:34

Anyone recovering from Corona virus who has needed to be admitted into hospital is worth celebrating, but it is good news that Boris Johnson is on the mend and didn't need to be out on a ventilator.

It wasn't the same without him, he is very good at creating positivity which is what is needed and he's obviously popular with his inner cabinet office colleagues. The alternative would have been very bleak, we need stability at the moment.

Peregrina · 10/04/2020 08:39

And yet 17% of money now paid to some NHS trusts each year still has to be spent on repaying the debt incurred then. Imagine how much they could be doing with an extra 17% funding?

So in the ten years the Tories have been in power, they haven't found a way to reverse this? Or they chose not too, there was no magic money tree remember? The magic money forest was only found when Cummings realised that he too could be vulnerable.

Peregrina · 10/04/2020 08:40

Creating positivity will put food on the table for those who have lost their jobs, will it?

vera99 · 10/04/2020 09:06

The Telegraph is running numerous articles questioning Boris's judgement and Cumming's malignant influence. One could almost imagine he will be the wounded and maybe retiring fall guy and the way can be cleared quickly for his successor. The King is Dead, Long Live the King! Same in the Mail looks like a concerted brief against Boris strategy....

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/04/09/system-boris-johnson-built-unravelling-absence/

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/09/senior-doctor-dies-coronavirus-weeks-pleading-prime-minister/

CendrillonSings · 10/04/2020 09:07

Wouldn’t it be nice if people could leave off the bitter moaning for five minutes? Some self-professed lovers of humanity seem to have no problem being nasty towards individual human beings.

CendrillonSings · 10/04/2020 09:08

vera99

Only in your dreams!

vera99 · 10/04/2020 09:10

Politics is a brutal game Tony Blair was frolicking around on the grave of John Smith whilst his corpse was still warm. Fortune favours the brave.

CendrillonSings · 10/04/2020 09:12

A couple of headlines don’t override a General Election landslide. And rightly so!

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