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Boris in hospital

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Cary2012 · 05/04/2020 21:14

Breaking news.

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LarkDescending · 06/04/2020 22:45

Correct Guardian link here

inflam · 06/04/2020 22:47

Watching Huw Edwards on BBC News at 10 - I think this is his first? day back at work after his own hospital stay with Covid-related pneumonia.

Ohh he had COVID??

howwillthispanout · 06/04/2020 22:53

Kingofkings - apologies if you think I singled you out; that was not intention and please don’t stop posting on my behalf. Ad PP have said you’re insight is helpful and reassuring - I was calling out the ethos of those wanting particular information or speculation on one patient (not your intention I realise). People who work in medicine can and do have digging options though - and we should not look for a singular truth in this or dismiss those who may be more caustic as lacking first hand experience. I wish you well

DarnedSocks · 06/04/2020 22:54

At this point is it too late to try one of the trial drugs on him? Everything I've read suggests they work best when taken early but there's little to lose now. Or if is it definitely too late and he should've taken them when he was first diagnosed?

Didkdt · 06/04/2020 23:42

@LarkDescending I think it's probably contingency planning he wasn't recovering quickly there was a chance this could happen best to be prepared

alloutoffucks · 06/04/2020 23:46

@LarkDescending Thanks for that, so he has been pretty ill for quite a few days then. I think it is looking very bad for him then.

MissEliza · 06/04/2020 23:51

I have to say I think Boris has prioritised his health over his job. When you have something like that, you must completely rest to give your body the energy to fight the virus. It is admirable that he didn't want to relinquish his responsibilities but I hope it won't cost him dearly. I feel deeply sorry for his partner although she's clearly a strong woman.

MissEliza · 06/04/2020 23:51

Oops I meant his job over his health!

alloutoffucks · 07/04/2020 00:06

None of us know what has actually been happening over the last week. He might have been doing too much, or he might have been in bed resting most of the time.
Also it is clear that people can feel pretty okay and think they are on the road to recovery, and then suddenly go downhill.

LarkDescending · 07/04/2020 00:13

@inflam Yes, Huw Edwards was treated at King’s College Hospital.

inflam · 07/04/2020 00:17

Yes, Huw Edwards was treated at King’s College Hospital.

For pneumonia.

Otherrooms · 07/04/2020 07:36

I have to say I think Boris has prioritised his health over his job. When you have something like that, you must completely rest to give your body the energy to fight the virus. It is admirable that he didn't want to relinquish his responsibilities but I hope it won't cost him dearly.

Or, as with many thousands of people, the illness just worsened and progressed very quickly?

Otherrooms · 07/04/2020 07:54

politics are nothing to do with feeling sympathy, empathy and worry for a fellow human.

Politics should be EVERYTHING to do with empathy and sympathy for a fellow human.

Many politicians throughout history have forgotten this.

TowerRingInferno · 07/04/2020 08:05

Well said otherrooms . Couldn’t agree more.

Duchessofblandings · 07/04/2020 10:34

Had no idea Huw Edwards has been so unwell. Very glad he’s obviously made an excellent recovery.

daisychain01 · 07/04/2020 12:34

I watched a brief news clip this morning with a very articulate and informative Doctor, talking specifically about Boris Johnson's situation.

Albeit he said he was having to base it on his own informed assumptions and experiences, what is likely to have happened is that when they conducted tests on Boris's bloods when he reported continuing symptoms, they were at a dangerously low level of oxygenation so they have been administering oxygen, not by ventilator because he was able to breathe for himself, but via a normal oxygen regulator, to get the 02 levels back up.

The other interesting point the Dr made was that, even though a person with CV may look "OK", it does not necessarily mean that their oxygen levels aren't on the decline, as the virus takes a grip over days. It is often imperceptible, but the mechanics of the respiratory system are compromised by the virus so it stands to reason they aren't able to pull in a healthy level of O2. By the time the person feels really poorly, things have already deteriorated over those days, and it gets to breaking point.

This is what happened with Boris, and him continuing to work 16 hours a day, not listening to his body contributed to his health declining.

Having seen a YouTube advice yesterday about the benefits of deep breathing, it's worth us all getting ourselves prepared even before we (potentially) contract this virus.

Daily deep breathing sessions, twice a day, can be all it takes to stop things deteriorating, because you've already primed the pump, every little helps. It's like dehydration, drink steadily over time to prevent dehydration, rather than getting really thirsty because by then it's too late, the body is already dehydrated.

Butterymuffin · 07/04/2020 12:50

Wasn't there supposed to be an update on Johnson's condition at noon? I know they've all got lots to do but it would help allay the unease people (including me) are feeling if they kept to a stated communication schedule.

LarkDescending · 07/04/2020 13:01

BBC News now - the update is that his condition is stable, still no ventilator.

Butterymuffin · 07/04/2020 13:06

That's as good as I would expect. Relieved he is stable. It will take time to see an improvement but sticking to regular updates will help steady everyone's nerves.

CloudsCanLookLikeSheep · 07/04/2020 13:20

Can any medics on here explain what stable means? Not getting better not getting worse?

BrooHaHa · 07/04/2020 13:22

Not a medic, but I'd have thought stable means not deteriorating.

justanotherneighinparadise · 07/04/2020 13:23

Update is positive. I had such a shit night last night thinking I’d wake up to terrible headlines. I’d be grateful Boris if you could not deteriorate as the days go on because I honestly feel if they can’t save you then my DP is absolutely screwed if he catches it.

pocketem · 07/04/2020 13:24

@BrooHaHa yes that's correct, someone can be critically ill but stable. Just means they are not getting worse

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 07/04/2020 13:33

yes that's correct, someone can be critically ill but stable. Just means they are not getting worse

But then they would be on a ventilator if they were critical, especially with COVID19.

pocketem · 07/04/2020 14:20

No, people can receive critical care without needing to be on a ventilator