Boris in hospital

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Breaking news.

I don’t want him to die but I refuse to accept that just because he’s ill everyone is supposed to be sickly sweet and positive towards him and magically forget all the terrible things that he’s done. That is not “compassion.” And you don’t get to censor other people.

They are also saying now that he was admitted in part because they wanted him to see a doctor face to face. Does that seem likely to be true, or would they have sent someone in to check him out at no 10? I think they must have.

If they just wanted a doctor to check him out, one would have been summoned to no.10. If that is indeed the kind of message they are putting out, it’s concerning because it seems so palpably untrue, and make me wonder about their truthfulness elsewhere.

forget all the terrible things that he’s done.
He’s not a despotic dictator FFS
We had elections and the policies, including Brexit were voted in.

Sir Patrick valance the govs chief medical officer

Sorry to be a pedant but he’s the Chief Scientific Adviser. Chris Whitty is the CMO.

Sorry to be a pedant but he’s the Chief Scientific Adviser. Chris Whitty is the CMO

Definitely an expert (and not a so called expert)

Oh so that’s the level we’re at? Anyone below “despotic dictator” is immune to all criticism?

Wouldn't doctors be photo going in and out? They would have to wear full hazmets well..

They’d put the Hazmat gear on whilst inside surely. No.10 isn’t your typical 3 bed terrace and he’s not collecting shopping from the door. He’s holed up in a suite of room in the adjoining no.11, the rest of the “complex” has people in it.

I think Boris just needs to rest. He's got a moderate case of a nasty virus and by all accounts you need to rest, sleep and recover and if you have a moderate case you can take 2-3 weeks to recover.

I hope you’re right, but you don’t need to go to hospital if you simply need “to rest”, especially in the current environment.

Not good. Not a fan, but wouldn't wish this on anyone. Hoping he has a speedy recovery.

Personally I find the death ghouls salivating that he’s definitely definitely on a ventilator and almost certainly going to die far more offensive than those who feel him being ill doesn’t automatically mean all discussion of his policies and behaviour must stop.

Some of the comments here are ridiculous. He’s not Saint Boris just because he’s ill.

The fact that he was shaking hands with coronavirus victims is beyond irresponsible

It was in line with the scientific advice at the time. And, as I pointed out upthread, this is not how he contracted it. The timescales are wrong.

I'm very irritated by people now trying to pretend that the government's initial position was not to let the virus take its own course

The initial position, as with many (but by no means all) other governments, was to protect the vulnerable and allow it to take its course amongst the less vulnerable so that we would develop herd immunity. I understand some governments (Sweden, being one of them, I believe) are still pursuing this strategy. Our government were hoping to avoid lockdown, apparently on scientific advice, as there is no clear way out. Unless we have eliminated the virus completely, which is unlikely, easing the restrictions is likely to lead to a resurgence. Ultimately it is almost certain that we will need herd immunity, either through people catching it and surviving or through vaccination. Unfortunately, it looks like a vaccination is over a year away.

They had to get him to hospital and didn't want to create panic so said 'for tests'. Presumably doctors in hazmat suits could have done that at home. So it's really just he's unfortunately gone into the second phase of this and needs to be in hospital.

It's very sad news and yes he's not in the best group, being 55 and portly and under stress etc.

He was told to tell us some stupid stuff at the start - herd immunity etc - but I guess he didn't expect to be one of the loved ones that died. However, he totally flouted his own advice and had close meetings and shook hands etc and they all caught it. Including Hancock. (How he can stand up now and say will stop people genuinely exercising because of some sitting down, I don't know.)

Boris probably has a 50/50 chance now, even with the best care. It's very sad and I hope he pulls through. Not as pm so much as a father of four with another on the way. 🥺

You are literally making things up. Every sentence of that post is rant not fact.

@Leflic, now it's you making things up. It's completely on record that Johnson boasted about shaking hands with C19 victims, and we could see with our own eyes that he wasn't socially distancing.

@daisychain01 It's not fickle to hope a fellow human doesn't come to any harm.

I do wish they'd stop trying to spin this. Last night he was in for one night only for tests, this morning he'll be in for as long as it takes - so clearly not just for tests. Jenrick's just been on the radio claiming it was a planned admission. No admission for C19 is planned, FFS.

@prh47bridge- It is really concerning about the lack of exit strategy, but seems to me that relying solely on the anti body test and testing for on NHS staff will probably not happen as it will involve even more NHS resources.

My view is that there will be a gradual return to work maybe 2 - 3 days a week once there has been a consistent pattern of decreasing fatalities, combined with further lockdowns as required.

It's completely on record that Johnson boasted about shaking hands with C19 victims

I wouldn't regard what he said as a boast. The scientific advice at the time was that shaking hands was fine as long as you washed your hands afterwards. He was asked in the press conference whether he was following the advice or doing something more. That was the context of his comment.

And, as I pointed out upthread, this is not how he contracted it. The timescales are wrong.

We can't say that, as there are outliers where there have been known incubation periods of up to 25 days. Moreover, he said on 3rd March that he was still shaking hands - we don't know when he stopped.

Sorry I meant sir Patrick valance the chief scientist officer.

I don't agree with sir Patrick, many other experts feel he went down the wrong route with this and I agree.

Boris is stuck if that's what his expert is saying.

As soon as they announced he had it, I thought "I hope he's going to rest". But he has obviously continued to work, and not rested. Now they say he is able to run the country from a hospital bed. He needs to let go for a few days so that his body can beat the virus. I'm surprised that the doctors haven't been stricter about that.

Arf at the scientific advice that at that stage it was OK to shake hands with corona victims.

It's farcical!..

@ilovemydogandMrObama - I agree that the lack of an exit strategy is a concern but I'm not sure what exit strategy is possible based on what we know at the moment. We don't appear to have a reliable antibody test at the moment, which doesn't help. The best guess I've heard is that we ease the restrictions a little, tightening again as required to stop the NHS being overwhelmed and repeat until we have herd immunity (either natural or through vaccination).

As someone commented upthread, how is Chris Witty? I can't find any mention of him in the updates

It hasn’t been reported that they are legally divorced, only that they have recently reached a financial settlement allowing Marina to apply for a decree absolute

No, it hasn't been reported but it would be surprising if they are not legally divorced by now. The judge had to give her permission to apply for a decree absolute out of time. As the financial settlement has been finalised I would have expected her lawyers to file for the decree absolute straight away. There was no reason for further delay and, given they were already out of time, good reason to get on with it.

I saw Chris Whitty had posted on twitter, but of course that could be a memeber of his team rather than him