It would be a terrible, terrible mistake to ban exercise outside

[Thedogshow]

Domestic violence has already increased, and whilst I know some people have been ignoring the rules the majority are abiding by them. The knock on effects for people’s mental health and the safety of women and children inside the home would be terrible.
It would be such an infringement of people’s liberty and terrible for the mental and physical health of so many people.
Imagine being stuck indoors all day with young children in a flat with no outside space.
This idea worries me more than anything else about the current crisis. I hope so much that it doesn’t happen. I feel like it’s almost like a reaction in anger because not everyone will do what they’re told: like a smack.

And yes, absolutely, the words Mental Health are becoming meaningless.

Which is a tragedy for those who actually suffer from MH issues as opposed to 99.9% of the bandwaggoners with their chucking the words into any post about CV as a get out of twattery free card.

You are doing real sufferers a great disservice, because the people really suffering aren't the ones banging on on every thread about it. They're the ones being stoic and silent about how this is making them feel. And because of the snowflakes, we risk letting them slip through the net.

If only people did as they were told. It's not difficult

If only people did as they were told. It's not difficult
It is difficult, though, for many people. Think it’s only fair to acknowledge that.

Another reason outside exercise should not be banned:

www.blf.org.uk/support-for-you/indoor-air-pollution/about-indoor-air-pollution

They're not policing the current rules very much. So people are doing what they want. If they started giving out large fines (so not £30, but a minimum of £100 fines) people would be much more likely to obey the current rules.

If it comes to further measures (God forbid...

Open spaces, roads etc reserved for those without access to a private garden.
Yes, that will mean leaving the house with proof of address - as Italy et al have done
Yes, impose heavy fines for those flouting rules (I'm talking £1k upwards to get the message home)

We have to protect the most vulnerable at this time - I simply don't believe they are the ones filling up parks/ having social gatherings etc.

It's not so straightforward. Like a lot of people, we have a very small garden. The very small gardens of 5 neighbours border ours. It's too small to exercise in, and it doesn't feel safe there if any of the 5 lots of neighbours are in their gardens.

If you are in the shielded group it is recommended you do not go outside. They make it clear it is up to you.

Please come down very hard on people who are having parties, bbq’s, sunbathing in the park and the people who are having picnics in parks.They are bloody stupid who are spoiling it for the rest of us.

I used to live in London and parents are still there. I totally understand the exercise confusion but cyclists bombing past, people having picnic’s etc in parks is stupid. As for the people who are still having parties.. Words fail me on the feckless and stupid people who are doing this. Crack down really hard on them, name and shame, anything but stop them.

Stop couples going shopping. Question the elderly who are coming every single day to my DS’s supermarket. Just STOP!!

They either need to police the existing rules and fine hard or ban exercise outside because some people are still not listening or justifying why they should be exempt. We're in Cornwall, people are still coming into our town for easter holidays, people are walking everywhere, on the beaches, on the coastal paths, the supermarkets are heaving.
Selfish individuals!

They're not policing the current rules very much. So people are doing what they want. If they started giving out large fines (so not £30, but a minimum of £100 fines) people would be much more likely to obey the current rules.

They are doing this already. I know of two people who were charged £60 in London yesterday for sitting in a park

Like a lot of people, we have a very small garden.
Most people I know don’t have gardens at all, because they live in flats.

I find this whole thread bamboozling. Come to work for a few hours with me - you’ll get it then

Have you seen those men who come out of jail incredibly fit after exercising for hours in their tiny cells?

The police don’t get to decide how much they fine by, you know that right?

Very telling all those putting it onto the police haven’t acknowledged the fact that we don’t HAVE enough police to enforce widely.

Along with Home Office being very clear enforcement is a last resort.

Gotta love these armchair police

Matt Hancock, bless his cold dead heart, looks just like a man whose wife has discovered Adultwork on his search history.
He keeps coming up with he didn't know how it got there, it was a joke, then a prank by a work colleague. Then ''I was just looking at the pictures''. Soon it will be the ''only a blow-job'' line.
But we all know that he has been fucked by an older, overweight blonde.

@Destroyer
Another reason outside exercise should not be banned:

www.blf.org.uk/support-for-you/indoor-air-pollution/about-indoor-air-pollution

Which is why we open our windows here, let the fresh air in. If you are using cleaning products especially. My house either smells of bleach or disinfectant these days.

HRTFT but my understanding was that the 'rules' weren't put in place to stop people catching Covid19 but rather to reduce the numbers catching it at one time? So that there's a fair chance of a hospital bed/ventilator being available. I would have thought most people will come into contact with it at some point. Supermarkets, transport & hospitals must be the most dangerous places to use.

OP- it's not about whether you will die or about the risk to you personally if you go out and catch it- it's about if everyone does then the numbers catching it will be so high that the NHs will not be able to handle the numbers that do require intensive care and ventilation. People will be left to die without help!

I'm not sure mental health comes before lives!

The government should not ban exercise outdoors, which would punish the responsible 99% for the actions of the 1% of morons.

What they should do is increase the fines for ignoring social distancing rules to at least £100 and start enforcing the rules properly
This.

Properly come down on those who aren't following existing rules.

Yes i think it would be a mistake, I think getting outside and maintaing a safe distance is a healthy thing to do, both mentally and physically. Most people are doing it sensibly .
In a built up inner city area with few parks/ open spaces it must be more challenging to maintain a safe distance but i dont think everyone in a block of flats in inner London, for example, should be forced to stay inside just because of where they live.
I live just outside a small village, i saw 14 people in my very short dog walk today , normally i can walk for miles and not see a soul so it was very noticeable there are more people out and about, hiwever maintaining a safe distance here is luckily very easy.

must be so much worse in towns and cities but i think making people stay at home is unfair.
Tbh I dont think the couple photographed walking on the remote yourkshire moor really did something that terrible!
It was only a week or two ago the schools were still open. Government have gone from herd immunity, schools open etc to not going out ( possibly at all) in lightening speed, it does make me wonder if schools etc should have been closed earlier.

HRTFT but my understanding was that the 'rules' weren't put in place to stop people catching Covid19 but rather to reduce the numbers catching it at one time? So that there's a fair chance of a hospital bed/ventilator being available.

Yes. They don't actually care about the numbers who die, they care that they don't all clog up the hospitals at once.

OP - I totally agree.

Only got to page 8, but wanted to comment on the mental health issue...

I have been on anti anxiety meds and anti depressants for over 20 years, i have had many different types of counselling ie psychotherapy, cbt, group cbt, normal counselling, phone counselling, crisis team counselling... dealing with agorophobia and social anxiety.

I am working and have been for 4 years. My problem is - I am more than happy to stay in the house and isolate, I am more than happy to shut myself off, I already have deleted facebook and whatsapp because i can't be doing with peoples general shit.

I've finished work now for nearly 3 weeks, which is a relief so that I can stay at home and stay safe - however I am worried that in those coming weeks and when i need to leave the house again, I actually won't be able to.

I think work are sorting out some phone counselling for me over the period, so please don't assume all those who call MH are snow flakes.

I've fought long and hard to get to where I am now. I know I'm going to completely shut off - and I don't want to! It's going to be very difficult.

Love to all in all difficult situations, it's not easy for anybody.

A period of very strict lockdown would actually shorten the length of time we need to have any kind of lockdown.