People demanding a full lock down

[Londongirl88888]

It really really annoys me! Most of us are following rules. Not even going for a walk most days. People are kicking off on my local corna page that theres more cars in town today. So they now think we need a full lock down.

Firstly it's the weekend. More people will be shopping due to being at work all week? People might be shopping for other family and dropping it off.

Theres a police statement that the a52 is really quiet and they are saying well done for listening.

People are allowed out for walks. It's important for dogs, children and adults to get air and move around. It should be one walk a day. It can't be controlled if 400 people choose to do just that between 1-2pm or only 30 do. So yes the streets may sometimes show more people. But most of them are probably just going for a walk. The only thing we have left for our minds and health.

I'm not talking about people having picnics,
Travelling for an afternoon walk somewhere,
Sneaking to see family unless they need help.

I'm saying the majority of people are going to be doing the decent thing.

I think rather than fully locking us down fine the minority sat in groups and doing the "wrong" things. Give them a full lockdown but don't punish the many decent people.

The parents/people in flats without gardens need to walk

Young children need to move.

We all need to move about.

Also i wish people would stop getting in a rage about cars being out. There are no online shopping slots. So thousands of locals will need to go out for food each week. Milk and bread etc will need buying for many every few days. Pet food needs buying. Prescriptions need collecting. Workers need to go to and from work.

A huge majority of people are following the rules. I'm sick of everyone being put into the same category. My kids have gone for their 3rd walk in two weeks just now with their dad. I'm sure people will be tutting and presuming we are another family out and not listening. They need to get out for 15 minutes today though. They are starting to climb the walls and get bored.

Far too many irate people at the moment.

Let them eat cake? Or artisan cornbread crackers maybe.

No please not more lockdown. I’m following it. I can see neighbours who aren’t.
Let the police deal with the dickheads and hammer the message home.
This is going to go on for a long time, so please let’s now make it worse than it needs to be

All seems quiet in my area.

I don't think a stricter lockdown would be particularly beneficial. The majority of people are sticking to the rules now, despite what the MN fearmongering would have you believe.

Yes, people are going out, but perhaps they are going shopping, or on their daily walk, which is allowed.

A stricter lockdown would likely cause more harm than good.

I think we are more likely to see police enforce the rules more than further lockdown

Maybe they will close more shops like bike shops and the keyworkers list maybe revised

We start getting used to our new situation very quickly humans are very adaptable and thats when we start to become complacent and take chances we wouldn’t of when people were more fearful. It’s a fine line of keeping people at a level of manageable fear and creating panic and anxiety.

This is why it helps to make adjustment to constantly to keep us thinking

Milk and bread do not need to be purchased every few days. They are not essentials

Not this shit again. I’m still awaiting this list of “essentials” that the shopping basket police say we can buy.

Let them eat cake? Or artisan cornbread crackers maybe
Of course they have to be sourced from a specific shop that also stocks the essential branded gin and branded raspberry lemonade.

I want total lockdown. Have done since Boris first announced lockdown. I know that people are stupid and will ignore the government.
Yesterday, as I passed on my way home from Tesco, I saw a group of around 6 teens hanging around the empty park, climbing up scaffolding of a building. Today I saw cyclists, 15 or so, cycling in a group along the farm track behind my house. Photo's on Twitter of plenty of people ignoring the distancing rules.

The military, fully armed with automatic rifles, should be deployed to every town to keep everyone at home by force. Armed checkpoints on every road into every town, on every motorway slip road. So on and so on. Only trucks and essential services should be on the roads.

If those measures save 1 life, it'd be worth it. If it ends this chaos even a day earlier, it'd be worth it.

@TheCanterburyWhales why is it scarmongering to say the virus is here to stay? People need to understand that the virus isn't going to disappear... You would neee to eradicate every case in the world. Impossible. People need to know lockdown is not a cure and there seems to be ignorance of this. As in my earlier post, what will happen when this full lockdown you want is lessened? Keen to know what you think your plan would achieve. The idea is to keep the spread under control - not eliminate it.

The military, fully armed with automatic rifles, should be deployed to every town to keep everyone at home by force

I am going to guess you are joking.

Because thats fucking Batshit and you may need to get some help.

We are staying in apart from daily walk. Nice this morning walked around our village, did not see many people, all kept their distance.

Desperate to get out again and help local businesses recover

Again, i'll ask the dipshits what they think is essential if bread and milk isn't?

WTF do you actually think you're saying?

@3rdTrimester

We might aswel all give up really hadn't we. I don't see what we can eat for breakfast without bread and milk and cereal. Before you suggest a fruit salad most kids won't entertain it.

It's not about missing a ham Sandwich it's about breakfast and dinner. It's about the milk for your children under 5s especially. It's about cooking with milk. Children would go hungry if parents didn't bother getting in breakfast cereals, bread and milk. My kids even have it for tea occasionally. It's ridiculous to tell people they don't need to drink tea, have cereal, toast sandwiches etc. Ofcourse we do. It's what we all eat in the UK! Or I could cook more. But I'll have to pop out for extra meat, salad and veg?

Today my local area had traffic jams because people tried to all go to B&Q. People were having big picnics, people were meeting up with each other for BBQ's. Full lockdown doesn't mean you aren't able to leave the house just that you can't go as far. If people are stupid enough not to follow the rules then unfortunately it is needed. I'd much rather that then my loved ones die 🤷🏼‍♀️

To the posters who do want a total lockdown, what changes is it you think we need? To not be allowed out to exercise or walk our dogs? For further closes of businesses? To be only allowed to buy once a fortnight a pre-made list of essentials? What essentials are they? To not be allowed out into our gardens? How are we policing this? How will the economy survive if this lasts longer than a couple of months? I'm sure their will be more deaths from loneliness or depression if a total lockdown was implemented with an indefinite time scale put on and even then any still going once were all allowed out again would be banging the drs door down for anti depressants.

The province of Wuhan has eradicated the virus by a rigorous lockdown.
The figures in Italy have plateaued and will start to drop within the next 7-10 days after a vigorous lockdown.

I think we need to be mindful my list of essential is different to yours. And that’s ok. We should not be policing peoples shopping, or denying someone a packet of biscuits.
For some people with little storage or no cars they have to shop frequently, others can go to Costco and go a month between shops.

That’s all ok.

Other countries with a vigorous lockdown have done all of those things.

Milk and bread do not need to be purchased every few days. They are not essentials

Oh dear god, not again! I happened to mention going shopping once or twice a week for milk and eggs and bloody hell did it kick off!

I’m not sure why one poster is buying 4 pints at a time because milk doesn't keep. We go through 10-12 pints a week and the milk I bought in the supermarket yesterday has a date of 9th and 14th or 16th April

Good for you. If I bought 12 pints of milk, there would be hardly any room in my fridge for anything else. Other people are different to you.

the virus isn't eradicated.

I think some people are misunderstanding how all this works.

It's not a matter of, if we all get locked in for a few weeks that's the end of it and back to normal!

The province of Wuhan has eradicated the virus by a rigorous lockdown.

There is no 'province' of Wuhan. Wuhan is a city.

And even if you believe the figures coming out of China, absent a vaccine, it is impossible to 'eradicate' a viral pandemic.

Not everyone has a car.
Not everyone has a massive fridge/freezer.
If people want to go and buy themselves some chocolate or a nice face mask, magazine etc. To feel a bit better in these times, let them.

It’s all very well behaved here, everywhere very quiet and people diligently crossing roads to avoid each other. A queue of a few people outside the local small supermarkets, all socially distancing.

It’s all very civilised, I feel I’m missing out on these scenes of social anarchy where people are licking each other in the street and coughing on hedges.

*The military, fully armed with automatic rifles, should be deployed to every town to keep everyone at home by force

I am going to guess you are joking.

Because thats fucking Batshit and you may need to get some help.*

Agreed

That would help how? Shoot on sight someone you see going out for their second dog walk of the day? That’s a really great response to a lockdown, the aim of which is to protect life.

‘Close the schools!’
‘Stop large gatherings!’
‘We want a lockdown!’
‘Not that, a proper lockdown!’

That's nothing, when people were panic buying I saw 2 people on Facebook discussing the need to bring in rationing like there was during the war 🙄 they are the ones that also act totally distraught when a famous person dies, and act like they knew them personally.