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Worried About Coronavirus- thread 36

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TheStarryNight · 03/04/2020 17:17

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middleager · 08/04/2020 10:02

These US figures show differences in sex for girls and boys, though it is labelled as 'gender'.

With 3 per cent being recorded unknown. I don't know if this is simply because it wasn't recorded or because - even now when sex matters more than ever - some are still messing around with ambiguous gender identity.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8193675/One-five-U-S-children-coronavirus-need-hospital-care-CDC.html

woodencoffeetable · 08/04/2020 10:09

wrt 'breathing assistance' hospitals explore household cpap machines as they seem to be effective if used in early stages of breathing difficulties.

Mittens030869 · 08/04/2020 10:16

@Saucery

I agree with you. I have to admit, it was quite galling to realise that Johnson hadn't even been on a ventilator. Hmm

I think people living on their own are more vulnerable (I had my DH keeping an eye on me), but he could have been given a panic button in case of emergency.

Hippofrog · 08/04/2020 10:16

Does anyone feel really uneasy about this winter, schools (supposedly) back in September, colder weather, flu season, festive season (please please lockdown December) it looks like a recipe for disaster to me.

DarnedSocks · 08/04/2020 10:23

Hippofrog I'm more immediately concerned about summer. Past two years hospitals were overrun with heat exhaustion patients. Heat can trigger other conditions including cardiac issues. It's more likely to severely affect the same people at increased risk from Covid. Also, I heard it can spread through air conditioning? By winter we could well have more drugs to treat it.

Wehttam · 08/04/2020 10:23

Hippo if there’s going to be a second wave then it wouldn’t be unreasonable to expect it to happen around this time.

Feel free to correct me if anyone feels different.

Mittens030869 · 08/04/2020 10:23

@Hippofrog

Potentially yes. The antibody test will be very useful; it will hopefully show how much immunity recovering from COVID-19 will provide. It's very unlikely that there'll be a vaccine by then, until then caution is necessary, I think.

pocketem · 08/04/2020 10:24

Effects of stockpiling on Tesco sales

Worried About Coronavirus- thread 36
TwentyViginti · 08/04/2020 10:33

I bet lots of that stockpiled food has gone to waste, sadly.

WhoWants2Know · 08/04/2020 10:46

The biggest sellers were non-perishables, so they'll be ok for ages yet.

woodencoffeetable · 08/04/2020 10:50

The biggest sellers were non-perishables, so they'll be ok for ages yet.

that doesn't stop people throwing it away.

ajandjjmum · 08/04/2020 10:53

I understand that ICU staff are wonderful and look after all their patients wonderfully well. It would not be unreasonable for them to be extra cautious with the PM.

I wonder whether they are trying a non-proven drug on Boris that might seem to have had good effects elsewhere, but has not been properly tested, and he's in ICU incase it has an impact that needs to be addressed immediately? Not really a conspiracy theorist - but you know......

DarnedSocks · 08/04/2020 10:54

Why would they throw away non perishables? Surely they'd just store them in a cupboard somewhere.

woodencoffeetable · 08/04/2020 11:19

Why would they throw away non perishables? because they forget about them. or pests get in...

TheStarryNight · 08/04/2020 11:49

British Veterinary Association are NOT advising that all cats be kept indoors

BritishVets
@BritishVets
Warning sign Contrary to some news reports this morning, we're NOT advising that all cats be kept indoors during the #COVID19 pandemic. Only cats from infected or self-isolating households should be kept indoors as a precaution, if possible. Read our statement bva.co.uk/news-and-blog/news-article/bva-statement-on-cats-and-covid-19/

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refraction · 08/04/2020 11:57

Sorry I know its the mirror but ffs I thought We were passed this. People seem obsessed over this more than anything else.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/schools-could-re-open-after-21832723

Dumakey · 08/04/2020 12:04

Place marking.

StrugglingThrough2 · 08/04/2020 12:07

@refraction same story in the daily fail, not named the senior politician. Schools back after Easter! I don’t think so!

refraction · 08/04/2020 12:08

Agree and they are still quoting that flawed study. Hmm

MarshaBradyo · 08/04/2020 12:09

Better not be re schools

Johnson will probably still be out of action then, hard to pretend everything is fine

LilacTree1 · 08/04/2020 12:10

Refuse collectors have said they’ve seen lots of food being thrown away.

Skittlesss · 08/04/2020 12:12

Reopen schools? Are they kidding? People developing symptoms NOW will likely have caught it from school. Flattening the curve? Wasn’t yesterday’s death rate the highest? What planet are these shitty journos on?

MarshaBradyo · 08/04/2020 12:15

Hopefully they’ll find something wise to write unsubstantiated trash about

I guess it’s hard to keep thinking of new CV angles every day Hmm

MarshaBradyo · 08/04/2020 12:15

Else

RedToothBrush · 08/04/2020 12:16

because they forget about them. or pests get in...

My tinned tomatoes frequently get rats and mice inside them before their best before dates of 2021.

My pasta is ravaged by cochroaches before it gets eaten by 2022.

Best before not being a use by date either.

But yes I'm sure the majority of people who have taken government advice to shop as little as possible - particularly those who were worried enough to stockpile - are sitting at home thinking 'I better not eat my tinned tomatoes right now, as I can go to the shops and buy something else I fancy instead' rather than having numerous meals featuring pasta and tomatoes and baking their own bread so they don't have to leave the house.

As much as this 'selfish stockpiler' idea is a popular one - its merely an extension of the 'deserving or undeserving poor / immigrant' mentality to bash as many people as possible despite evidence to the contrary that you can't overlook the poor (cos they spread disease just as much as the rich - possibly more so) and the health and social care in this country relies disproportionately on immigrant labour.

The fact that our supply chains had so little slack in the system to cope with a crisis and that Just-In-Time is particularly problematic in cities (where warehousing and floor space is expensive) and in the areas furthest from warehouses (like Devon and Cornwall) has got fuck all to do with it. Nor has people planning to do exactly what they were told to do. Nor has the fact that the closure of cafes and restuarants where people bought nearly a third of their meals pre close down had any influence WHATSOEVER on purchasing patterns.

We are all supposed to eat a third less food, shop as often as we did before and to ignore the government advice if we are vulnerable (and couldn't get a delivery slot for weeks).

Yes BLAME THE SELFISH STOCKPILERS AND SAY THERE WILL BE LOTS OF WASTE rather than engaging your brain cells and thinking about reasons why there might be a legitimate reason for an uptick in purchases of certain products which will be consumed.

FWIW, I bought slightly extra in early Feb, well before there was a run on the supermarkets and there were any supply chain issues because I knew there would be an issue. Not only am I staying home more and shopping less, but I'm also wasting LESS (not more) food as I try to use what I do have more wisely priortising the precious tomatoes and pasta for my 5 year old (rather than eating them myself), precisely so I can follow the advice. Plus because I knew what was going to happen, anticipating the problem, I contributed less pressure at peak points. I very much doubt I'm alone.

But yes. I'm off message with my behaviour. I should be shouting:

"BURN THE STOCKPILERS AT THE STAKE"

Honestly, if people are just trying to get by rather than trying to sell on at hugely inflated prices, you can't really have a go at them. This is all about deflecting from failures in business and in government to plan for a a predictable pandemic which by the first week of February was clear there was a high chance would land on our shores. Instead they all waited until the problem hit before even thinking about how they would manage supply chain problems. They KNEW there was panic buying in China, Hong Kong and South Korea by this point, yet they DID NOTHING.

shrug

BURN THE STOCKPILERS