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Worried About Coronavirus- thread 36

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TheStarryNight · 03/04/2020 17:17

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AbsentmindedWoman · 07/04/2020 02:19

Random18

Gilead is donating over 1 million doses of Remdesivir and scaling up production - things have not gone quiet.

CrunchyCarrot · 07/04/2020 06:32

And another health minister thinks the rules don't apply to him!

NZ Health Minister breaks lockdown at the beach.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-52194407

CrunchyCarrot · 07/04/2020 06:50

My personal opinion on Boris. I hope he recovers, because he needs to face the music after what he helped unleash re Brexit. Because he has a pregnant fiancee and that child needs a father. Because I don't want to see him become some kind of hero as 'the wonderful PM that never got a chance' whilst the lies he told are forgotten. I want him to recover and BE that PM, like he promised.

RedToothBrush · 07/04/2020 08:14

Natasha Clark @natashac
Gove tells the BBC the PM has had a "stripped back diary" for the last few days on the advice of his doctors

That's a shift from 'he's in charge and working on his laptop in hospital'.

Talk this morning that he was forced by the cabinet to formally give control to Rabb.

Gove declined to give an update on Johnson's condition.

Reports this morning have suggested that whilst he is on oxygen he's on a lower level than normal for ICU.

At this point with the he's in complete control and still working on his laptop v being so ill he has to go to icu and this has been planned since Thursday, I'm not sure what to believe anymore.

Just that Dominic Raab is our defacto prime minister atm and there are few people I think are worse choices and that's from an already bad field of candidates!

MurrayTheMonk · 07/04/2020 08:34

'Stripped back his diary' For Gods sake why don't they just stop talking bollocks-he's so ill he's in intensive care so he obviously isn't in condition to work or have anything at all 'in his diary'... just bloody say that, we're not idiots.

RedToothBrush · 07/04/2020 08:41

we're not idiots

I think there is a surprising mounting pile of evidence which suggests lots of the public are to be fair to the government...

Noideareally2 · 07/04/2020 09:10

Would anyone have voted in a Tory government with Dominic Raab as PM?

YangShanPo · 07/04/2020 09:15

Certainly a lot of people who voted for Boris wouldn't have necessarily voted for Raab.

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TheStarryNight · 07/04/2020 09:17

Dominic Raab. As if it we weren’t in enough trouble already. Christ on a bike.

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Derbygerbil · 07/04/2020 09:27

At this point with the he's in complete control and still working on his laptop v being so ill he has to go to icu and this has been planned since Thursday, I'm not sure what to believe anymore.

Only this time yesterday we were being told it was purely precautionary and that he’d be out of hospital very soon. Whatever you think about him, the last thing he or the country needed was the macho insistence that he’s still “leading from the front” and “taking full charge of the situation” whilst he deteriorates with pneumonia. Not only has likely this put himself at greater risk, but it minimises it’s seriousness, encourages people not to follow advice and, literally, work themselves to death (hopefully Boris won’t actually end up having done that).

Derbygerbil · 07/04/2020 09:28

Its not it’s

refraction · 07/04/2020 09:46

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-school-closures-have-little-effect-on-slowing-spread-of-covid-19-11969671

So much wrong with this article. Makes me wonder not least if they have ever stepped inside a school. There seems more of an obsession with a schools than their does anything else opening.

Sixp · 07/04/2020 09:47

I am being told that the death rate in the Uk is about the same as it usually is, even with Coronavirus. Can anyone help explain this, if it is true?

MollyButton · 07/04/2020 09:48

I do believe that the science was flawed.

Science is always flawed it is not an absolute it is a seeking for answers, and it changes in the light of new information.

Eg Swine Flu seemed much worse than it ended up being when it first emerged (a really high death rate). By the time it got to the UK it was nothing like as bad.

Saucery · 07/04/2020 09:50

I think a government of national unity would be advisable now.

YangShanPo · 07/04/2020 09:57

Personally I think they should choose a long term successor from the cabinet just in case and Labour should continue to be cooperative but still critical. This government needs some kind of check on it.

Ladyellow · 07/04/2020 09:57

@refraction I think there’s always been thinking that school closures don’t make much difference in themselves. I think they close schools partly because it then forces people to WFH etc- the evidence the biggest places for spreading are work places such as offices, smaller scale social gatherings where people tend to “huddle” so pubs, cafes, restaurants, house parties and then healthcare settings.

Random18 · 07/04/2020 09:58

Sixp I can't believe this to be the case.

There may not have been an significant impact yet, but that will soon change.

If there have been fewer deaths from flu then I guess its reasonable to say people who may have died from flu in Jan are now dying from CV in March.

But imo there are a large number of additional deaths due to Coronavirus.

We will really only know later though.

Mittens030869 · 07/04/2020 10:02

@MollyButton

That's because it was the bird flu that had the very high death rate (60%), and they were very afraid that it would mutate and transmit from human to human. That would have had the catastrophic death rate that was feared. But it only ever transmitted from birds to humans hence it was a serious risk to those working with birds. It also killed cats that ate the sick birds.

Swine flu was initially thought to be the mutated virus, but then it was clearly said that it wasn't. Certainly by the time I had swine flu symptoms a couple of months later, I had no fear of being at risk. (It was horrible, though.)

refraction · 07/04/2020 10:03

Lady I understand what you are saying but schools are huddles too, very much so.
Staff rooms, small corridors, cafes, drop off and pick up and so much more.

Microbiologist sky saying it shocked him how much it affected the young.

WhyNotMe40 · 07/04/2020 10:04

I would feel happier with a government of unity - Starker is a good calibre of leader for example, much better than Raab or Gove.
Do you think Hunt is regretting decimating the NHS yet? I do hope he is having a few sleepless nights....

WhyNotMe40 · 07/04/2020 10:05

Starker?! Autocorrect, Starmer

YangShanPo · 07/04/2020 10:09

Even with the death toll rising and the PM in ICU they are already pushing at lifting the lockdown, the old school closures makes no difference line comes back out. They are desperate to get back to the herd immunity plan asap.

MarshaBradyo · 07/04/2020 10:09

Who are Yang?

WhyNotMe40 · 07/04/2020 10:10

I am a secondary teacher. Schools are so much more crowded than they ever used to be and more than they are in other countries. Our staffroom is also tiny, corridors are less than 2m wide, windows can only crack open for safety, and there is no there ventilation.
Other people are in and out of schools all the time due to safeguarding, therapies, and all the other extra bits schools now have in addition to actual education.