Worried About Coronavirus- thread 36

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I agree @JellyFishSquish I was screaming at the TV, but back then my DH thought I was totally over reacting! The sheer possibility that it could happen here just didn't hit home with people. I've mentioned previously that there needs to be an inquiry into all of this. We were warned, we had time and what did we do...

I think there was a lot of denial. Previous epidemics like SARS, bird flu and swine flu have fizzled out without progressing anywhere near this far. I genuinely think nobody realised it would get this bad.

Same here. My DH though still thinks I am overreacting

Thank you Number12 I was screaming with you...

@Darnedsocks you say nothing to lose but hydroxycholoquine has serious life changing side effects including blindness and sudden cardiac arrest

The cardiac issues are rare and the visual problems are linked to long-term use. It's a drug that's used by many people for autoimmune issues. It's not new. There's also the possibility of remdesivir. That's showing a lot of promise. It's in late stage trials here. And when the alternative is death, there's little to lose.

My respiratory consultant told me to stop leaving the house at the beginning of February, many people saw this coming but BJ and Dominic Cummings decided to play eugenics with the UK population by promoting herd immunity. Their rationale was based on flawed science, they knew that but did it anyway.
They thought the old and weak were expendable, I'm certain BJ regrets that now.

Yes the warnings were there. It's all going to shit. Guy in my team's partner was exposed (locus doctor) weekend before last, unwell and tested Tuesday. Still waiting for results.

The situation is like a really bad film with a shit plot, piss-poor actors, a crap script filmed on a £500 budget.

I really want to stay in my bed and hibernate until this is all over.

Darned has it not gone a bit quiet on Remedesivir

Possibly because the company who developed it has got orphan drug status for it. Which basically means it's use won't be widespread.

@DarnedSocks I know first hand about the side effects, I've taken the drug myself, it's not straightforward and it can effect your sight very soon after taking it. The cardiac issues are rare in rare in people who are not suffering from covid, nobody knows how it will effect people with a system overload with a sophisticated virus.

A god damn disgrace is what it is. How many lives would have been saved had the country taken it seriously straight away. People keep saying, well what difference would it have made, we you tell that to the families of those who are dead or dying from this.

The average joe bloggs had no clue what to think because the government, WHO and the media all downplayed and confused the message, throw in Trump who whether we like it or not has an influence on some of our fellow countrymen. Plus there was a concerted effort here to downplay what was happening by some very dubious users whose agendas we’ll never know or understand.

It makes me so angry I could cry in frustration, that the calamity we all saw coming actually came and we now have to sit and watch it unfold.

So Charlie, you think our chief scientists presented other info and Boris and dc simply disregarded that and said '' more, we must have eugenics ''?

@CharlieTangoBanana - what is your plan? Will you wait for a vaccine? I'm genuinely curious.

Random I saw something about that. The worry was for poorer countries. I was hoping Gilead would be shamed into changing the status. That would require media pressure. Can we in the UK not afford to buy much of it? We certainly have some access. Late stage trials started in the UK last week. Perhaps it's still to early to judge it's efficacy?

Either incompetence or a deliberately callous attempt to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of lives in pursuit of a herd immunity strategy to minimise disruption to businesses. Either way there is blood on their hands

The Trump broadcast is very odd tonight.

Actually at one of the first interviews, he almost muttered to himself something like '' some people think it should just be allowed to run through us, personally I think we need to mitigate it''

I'm aghast that anyone thinks Boris would just have this rear up and make descions based on his own of virus and go with that??

If you want to blame someone for herd immunity why not blame the chief science officer and his bloody models!!

Also, people say how wonderfully calm, jenny harries is, sir paddy and witty.

Perhaps this calmness relayed the incorrect message?

THERE'S A TRAIN STEAMING DOWN THE TRACKS HEADING STRAIGHT FOR US, ACT NOW.

Instead we have that awful jenny harries and sir Patrick telling us... There's no way evidence that covid will get spread at a race meeting of 70 thousand... Or at a football match... Or in a school.

No evidence? That's correct because we are still learning about this virus. Slippery...

@IronNeonClasp very uncomfortable watching. Dr Brett looks terrified. Trump is deranged.

I agree Bornfree I've had time to think and it's made me realise, if nothing else, the PM doesn't act alone in any decisions or policy.

@mrshoho He seems a bit out of control / split personality... I get the actor-shit but he just seems totally bonkers today.

I doubt Boris made any of the early decisions on how to tackle this.

He will not unlike some world leaders have assumed to know better than his chief medical officer and all the other scientists and medics who inform the government. He will have bowed to their greater knowledge to a huge degree. He may have rubber stamped various strategies, but he will not have been the architect.

I hope he makes a full recovery quickly. Because he is a human being, because he has loved ones and because we need him at the helm right now, more than ever.

Whatever your feelings about the mans or his politics, anyone who thinks any differently needs to take a long hard look in the mirror.

@IronNeonClasp my personal plan for me - yes I will wait for a vaccine because I know I wouldn't survive if I got it. The personal price I wil pay for that is massive, I have children and grandchildren, friends, hobbies a love of travel. But ultimately I have a love for life and I want to live, my whole body aches to see, touch and hold the ones I love but the desire to live is just as strong.

Each and every one of us will have to make our own decisions based on our own unique circumstances. For people who are young fit and healthy they may decide that going back to life as it once was is a risk worth taking.

I don't think Boris was presented with different information but I do believe that the science was flawed. There were no guarantees that Covid wouldn't just kill the old, weak and damaged (like me) there was emerging evidence that it was effecting young, fit people and no accurate evidence on the ability of the virus to mutate. They were all privy to that information but chose to go down the herd immunity route themselves it showed a willingness to sacrifice people rather than mitigate.

I shouldn't have went to the shop. I stepped over his letter saying only go out for essential and save lives, telling myself it will be fine. But my whole street have it. I get back and prime minister is in intensive care.