Worried About Coronavirus- thread 36

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YOLO I have sympathy for your position. It probably doesn't help that he projects such a PR persona (Boris isn't even his name for example) that it's difficult to see him as a real person behind the persona. But he is a real person with family that presumably care about him. We can at the least feel for those who are worried about him?

yolo well, your feelings certainly give me a jolt, but given previous threads, perhaps I shouldn’t be surprised.

and I think at the stage when you're in intensive care you get the same treatment and odds of recovery whether you're the PM or a road sweeper.

@DarnedSocks he felt queasy at herd immunity? Where did you hear that? If that is true he goes up slightly in my estimation as it was the cold hearted ruthlessness of preparing to sacrifice part of the population without any qualms that really got to me. That and the constant lies, feeling like I'm a rat in some experiment, the constant spin etc etc...

My mother died from pneumonia. Believe me, I find the reports of the situation extremely distressing, especially, as she, like so many others at the moment, died alone in the hospital. Luckily, for her, apparently her obs were normal and she died within an hour - I hope that is true, but I don't actually believe it.

'Boris' will get the best treatment they can give him - of course, as should we all. Unlike the residents of Murrays care home, despite her absolute best efforts. Unlike the front line workers.

Whatever we think of Boris Johnson, he has a pregnant girlfriend. This must be traumatic for her, and she's only just recovered from the virus herself.

Darned Socks: -

What you say puts the UK's response to Covid - 19 in a better framework/perspective. I can see and understand it more clearly somehow.

Boris has been libertarian about this. He's been slow to act because he can't bear to lose freedom himself and impose it on his country. He didn't understand how serious this was and that has come back to bite him.

I'm struggling to believe that this is serious still because of our government's confused messages, changes of mind, lack of clarity and slowness to act.

One minute I look at the world or a science video explaining what Covid 19 is and freak out. And a few hours later I'm raging against my freedom being taken away.

Boris is sort of a symbol of my, and others who are responding like me, idiocy.

Prior to Coronavirus I despised Boris, but he was very kind and gentle in his approach to locking us down. It made me see him a different light. I hope he comes through this.

@yolo FGS have some empathy dear god. I’m truly shocked at some posters on here recently with their total uncaring selfish attitude to other human beings.

@WhyNotMe40 Someone posted a link about it on one of the threads last night. I can't remember which one.

Polly - I like what you say, really interesting. Made me rethink a bit

I'm not unempathetic; I wouldnt wish covid19 on my worst enemy. And, as I said, my own mother died of pneumonia, alone in hospital.

BUT having said that: "Boris" has had access to the best medical care throughout, was admitted to Thomas' as a 'precaution' not an A&E blue light job; if anyone is going to get looked after it's him.

Which I understand as he is the PM.

But there are thousands of others all over this country who are probably having extremely frightening symptoms who are told to stay home, take paracetamol, drink water and only call 999 when you cant actually breathe. Not to mention the NHS and carehome workers who are providing care to seriously ill people without adequate PPE.

I don’t believe he was admitted as a precaution

They just didn’t want to say more

He probably did what I did with pneumonia as I said yesterday. One minute getting ready to go out, then sat down and couldn’t get up. I was 25!

I never have or never will vote for Boris. I don't agree with his politics.

I do wish him well tonight and I really hope he recovers.

He is a son, a father, a fiance and a dad to be. He's also our PM.

The country needs him.

In shock tonight.

Random “I never have or never will vote for Boris. I don't agree with his politics.”

That’s what I thought till December!

@yoloPenguinsEatfish
Your post is correct, you are a bad person.

Thoughts are with Boris and his family.

looking at him clapping on the steps of no 10, in retrospect, he looks fucking rough.
I feel very very sorry for him
I dont even care about the politics. He has deteriorated in public view and it brings it home for those of us who havent personally been touched, even if we have personal fears.

@yoloPenguinsEatfish do you not think in an ideal world Boris would of course ensure everyone could go straight to hospital the second they thought they might need to if only for reassurance! That PPE was available freely to all in copious amounts? The hospitals can't cope, he's doing his best in a shit show. Everyone wants PPE right now in the world, they are asking anyone who can make it to do so. Do I think he should have acted sooner YES do I think things should have been done differently YES but he is a bloke trying to keep multiple plates spinning, trying to get us through this the best way he knows how with the advice and information he has. He's does not have magical powers.

Pre corona virus Boris has been spending millions on new hospitals, extending and updating, I know this for a fact as we build them! Right now he is throwing money at the NHS, Hospitals, corona virus and once this has passed be has to some how get the country running again. I cannot imagine the pressure he is under.

And as PM I expect him the get the rolls Royce treatment because he is the PM and he needs to be well to lead our country out of this.

I for one wish him well.

I hope Boris isn't suffering is all. As Id hope for anyone really. I don't believe Intensive care is ever used as a precaution really and I think he's been more ill than they've been saying.
It all just adds to the full horror of this situation doesn't it? Whatever you think of the man or how he's handled it all, having the PM In serious condition in hospital in the middle of a national emergency is the stuff of apocalyptic movies .

Thankyou all for your thoughts for me and the people in my home. I do appreciate it all....I'm home now and all being well, a full day off tomorrow. In bed now with my two teen DD's about to catch up with Made In Chelsea for a bit of escapism for an hour...

Agree with pp that it’s a tough balancing act to instigate tighter control measures at the right time when the British population are generally sceptical and demanding their rights. But then, why not do everything in your power to help the public understand the seriousness and unpredictability of this virus? We would all be able to make better decisions and be on board if the gov and media had not constantly downplayed this, a particular video that grates is the one of Boris and Jenny Harries smirking smugly that most will get mild symptoms... Even if studies have not been concluded, why can’t they be reported while drawing our attention to all the uncertainties and potential risks with the new disease.

While Boris was initially taken to hospital reportedly as a precaution, tighter measures were not put in place in a timely manner ‘as a precaution’ against thousands of needless deaths in the face of a new disease. Though as pp have said it looks like Boris has been worse than let on, I hope he makes a good recovery poor guy!

God help us all Trump is saying that he's got his "people in London " talking to BJ's doctors about the amazing therapeutics that are having"amazing" results with.

@CharlieTangoBanana

Let's just hope that Trump sees this as a wake up call that he needs to take this pandemic more seriously than he has been doing. The death toll in the US is becoming horrific.

Three? weeks ago Boris was shaking hands with people in hospital. Two and a half MONTHS ago many people looked at China and said WTF!! This is coming!!

So we are here now. A lot of people are not surprised. Should they feel sorry for Boris? Well, if you are human you feel sorry, but also you feel the inevitability of it all. We deserved a better prepared government. It isn't as though we were not warned that this was coming.

If Trump's talking about the drugs that have seen some success in a number of countries, there's little to lose at this point in trying them on Boris. I've heard they work best when taken in the early stages but our UK trials are, I believe, taking place on patients at a more critical stages.

Charlie what an idiot.