Worried About Coronavirus- thread 36

[TheStarryNight]

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Wehttam what is it you're worried about ?

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-italys-doctors-and-nurses-are-in-trauma-over-deaths-of-more-than-100-colleagues-11968928?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter
Coronavirus: Italy's doctors and nurses are in trauma over deaths of more than 100 colleagues

That makes me sad and angry Red and reading that two nurses took their own lives.

Yet still those that are grieving their colleagues must carry on in the most dangerous conditions.

I believe there is also a potential case in the UK of a 21 year old nurse taking her own life in London too. Obviously in none of these cases do we know for certain that it was directly from the trauma of working with covid-19 but given the trauma other staff are suffering its very possible.

Its like a nightmare come to life

@HeIenaDove it really is. I'm having to limit my intake. Didn't look after anything all day and hardly at all yesterday. Much better for it.

I really hope Boris is ok. If the PM dies people will be terrified and I dread to think what they’ll do.

I wish the news would stop reporting about cats being infected. There’s no proof the virus can be transmitted from cats to humans, all they’re doing is stirring up fear and hatred against cats. I’m worried people will start abandoning or even killing them.

Does this mean flies can be infected

RIP Liz is trending Another nurse has died. Liz Glanister

@Petiolaris. Just thought it was a bit odd I haven't read anything else about cats.

I'm looking to adopt a Covid feline orphan. Have offered my services. Read a few other posts on facefuck others doing the same 😻

@Somelady it’s not a worry, more of a hmmmm feeling. Strange times we are living in, up is down and down is up it would seem.

Hopefully once I wake in the morning I’ll be able to put my finger on it.

I wonder if Boris went to hospital before the speech but they released the news after? Because if we'd heard Boris in hospital-Queen making a speech, we'd have thought he'd died (even though the speech was recorded earlier)

I do wonder how much the BBC's rentaquote doctor was paid for "has told the BBC that under the circumstances he'll probably be having an X ray"

No shit Sherlock.

mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN21N08X?__twitter_impression=true
Death at home: the unseen toll of Italy's coronavirus crisis

"My father was left to die alone, at home, without help," Bertuletti, 48, said. "We were simply abandoned. No one deserves an end like that."

Interviews with families, doctors and nurses in Italy's stricken Lombardy region indicate that Bertuletti's experience is not uncommon, that scores are dying at home as symptoms go unchecked and that phone consultations are not always enough.

In Bergamo province alone, according to a recent study of death records, the real death toll from the outbreak could be more than double the official tally of 2,060, which only tracks hospital fatalities.

As the global fight to save lives centres on boosting the supply of hospital ventilators, some doctors say a lack of primary healthcare is proving just as costly because medics cannot or will not make home visits, in line with a worldwide tactic of switching to remotely delivered medical advice.

Also and this paragraph is key

Authorities are now moving to reinforce primary care in line with recommendations by the World Health Organization, which says that delivering primary healthcare safely should be a priority for governments right after intensive care capacity.

And

A study by local newspaper L'Eco di Bergamo and research consultant InTwig, using data provided by local municipalities, estimates that 5,400 people died in the Bergamo province during the month of March, or six times more than a year ago.

Of these, it reckons that as many as 4,500 people succumbed to the coronavirus - more than double the official tally. This took into account 600 people who died in nursing homes and evidence provided by doctors, it said.

We should be concerned about this.

I think the care home system in Italy is pretty dire. I'm not sure how regulated. For a country priding itself on its treatment of the elderly you hear some shockers. Many carehomes are run by the church of course. It's also very common when an elderly person is widowed and doesn't necessarily need a carehome (or the family can't or won't pay for a decent one) to hire a carer. These are almost always women from Eastern Europe. You will hear not "my mother's carer" but "my mother's Romanian" etc.
The dark underbelly of "oh they love their old people and everyone lives together in one big multi-generational family"

And it turns out the antibody tests don't work...

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/britain-has-millions-of-coronavirus-antibody-tests-but-they-don-t-work-j7kb55g89
Britain has millions of coronavirus antibody tests, but they don’t work

Instead, government scientists hope to work with companies to improve the performance of antibody tests and Professor Newton said he was “optimistic” that one would come good in months.

"in months"

@TheCanterburyWhales

Our care homes are in far worse shape
Already under-staffed and now in dire straits with people going off on self isolation. Despite Jenny Harries' lies in the press conference yesterday, there is no testing going on for care staff. No practical contingency plans have been on how to keep the homes running without staff - at the moment they are relying on good will of managers and remaining staff to work double and triple shifts but that is not sustainable.
We will end up like Italy and Spain with people being left to die in care homes

english.alarabiya.net/en/News/world/2020/04/06/Ecuador-city-runs-out-of-coffins-amid-coronavirus-crisis-.html
Ecuador city runs out of coffins amid coronavirus crisis

Soaring numbers of coronavirus deaths in Ecuador’s second city Guayaquil have led to a shortage of coffins, forcing locals to resort to using cardboard boxes, city authorities said Sunday.

Authorities in the Pacific port city said they had received a donation of 1,000 pressed cardboard caskets from local producers, and delivered them for use in two local cemeteries.

“It’s so they can meet demand,” a city hall spokesman told AFP. “There are either no coffins in the city or they are extremely expensive.”

And

Last week, residents posted videos on social media showing abandoned bodies in the streets in the Latin American city worst hit by the pandemic.

The government called in troops to pick up 150 corpses from streets and homes earlier this week after mortuary workers in the city were unable to keep up with a backlog of removals.

And

Ecuador reported 3,646 cases of the coronavirus on Sunday, including 180 deaths, the majority of them occurring in Guayaquil and its surrounding province of Guaya.

nos.nl/artikel/2329482-gevolgen-voor-grensverkeer-duitsland-nu-nederland-corona-risicogebied-is.html

germany has closed the border to the netherlands (not in lock down and with a high number of cases and deaths)

Daniel Choi @drdanchoi
Report from #COVID19 front lines 4/5/20 NYC hospital-

"Only 5 nurses in the ED. They're all calling out.

We're supposed to have ~25 a shift on regular ED days. We've had single digits overnights for the last week."

Impending staffing shortage is very worrisome

Thing is, who gets admitted to hospital on a Sunday evening for "precautionary tests"? Why not just wait until Monday morning?

and at the moment you would want to stay away from the germ factory that a hospital can be at the best of times.

Thing is, who gets admitted to hospital on a Sunday evening for "precautionary tests"? Why not just wait until Monday morning?

Someone who wants to go in discretely and with security as not to disturb other patients. And because the 9.10pm announcement is typical for catching the morning headlines in a stop press way (can control the story - less risk of leaks) No one can dig around to try and find out how ill Johnson is before publication.