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The rise in the hero complex

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PrincessConsueIaBananaHammock · 28/03/2020 17:08

There has been a certain rise in people claiming they are or thinking they are heroes. "We are saving lives".

That basically involves an avid desire to report anyone that dares to leave the house, police everyone else, dismiss the worries and concerns of others, ridiculing, attacking,bullying and emotionally blackmailing anyone who struggles, some kind of irrational fear/hate of children and gleeful virtue signaling about how much better they are at staying home. Abusing key workers that in their eyes are not doing their job,for doing their job, following guidelines(made up or official) ,not following guidelines,in the wrong clothes etc.


There are people who are seriously struggling right now, emotionally,financially,mentally,physically etc. People that are becoming more and more vulnerable as more restrictions and public policing come in. People that have killed themselves due to the situation we are in.


They are not heroes,they are not saving lives.

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BillywilliamV · 29/03/2020 09:31

I volunteer to kill and stuff Charlie so that he c an be placed in a museum where he belongs, to inspire generations yet to come!

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MrsBobDylan · 29/03/2020 09:32

I have never been on Facebook and sometimes missed out on social events etc. But fuck me, I have been spared and I am thankful!

For me, the home schooling heroes can just fuck off - our poor kids are living through a scary pandemic and are expected to maintain schoolwork as though they can teach themselves. I feel so bloody sorry for some of the kids I work with as a TA who don't have over invested parents with laptops, iPads and printers pouring over their work.

We will destroy their confidence and mental health with all this pushy pushing. My 12 year old wanted to cry this week because he couldn't manage the work he has been set. I ended up doing some of it for him - what is the point in that?

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Shitsgettingcrazy · 29/03/2020 09:34

I'm pretty sure they're just exasperated about the number of people constantly making excuses and adding to the death rate

How?

People are usually making shit up or assuming that people are flouting the rules when they arent.

My dad walks to his job in the NHS local mental health facility. How is him walking to work, flouting the rules?

How is helping to shout at people out doing their job? Like a pp said has happened to her bil.

Because I think this sort of shit is actually making it worse. Would you like to be shouted for going out and doing your job?

Who exactly is that making it better for?

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R2221 · 29/03/2020 09:35

OP, don’t get me started on the anti-exercise heroes !

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TheGreatWave · 29/03/2020 09:35

I think Charlie's mum needs to stop putting such huge responsibility onto a 6 year olds shoulders. A child of that age shouldn't be hearing those things to repeat them.

(Well obviously he never said them, but if he did she is looking at the wrong bit of her parenting)

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lightnesspixie · 29/03/2020 09:39

Socmed is the absolute pits. After last Thursdays clap for carers (now there's an unfortunate turn of phrase!) ppl who had observed neighbours NOT coming out/doing it/showing themselves were saying how 'disgusted' they were with their largely elderly neighbours who had not clapped!!! What is wrong with ppl?! These ppl may not have known about it/might be asleep/infirm or JUST NOT WANT TO. And that's OKAY everyone calm down. The sheer nastiness in these idiotic platforms right now is utterly depressing.

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user1353245678533567 · 29/03/2020 09:40

That said, some people have suggested that the restrictions imposed to save lives aren't worth tolerating because of the effects on their own mental health.

Are you referring to people at risk of life-changing illness and suicide? Or just people talking about their mental wellbeing?

Because I've seen lots of comments from the former group, and I don't see why their lives should be considered worthless and inconsequential. I sure as hell won't be joining in with anyone telling them their lonely and invisible death will be "for the greater good".

The restrictions aren't "saving lives" if they just cause deaths among a different group of people instead.

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AuntieStella · 29/03/2020 09:43

I think in general those things need to be said.

You don't need to exercise somewhere pretty to get the benefits of exercise, your dog can get plenty of stimulation from an on lead on street walk with plenty of sniffing.

But I have seen one response that really horrified me with its tactless bluntness. I don't really want to drag criticism of a specific post from thread to thread so won't say what it is. But looking at why someone wants to do something you think either non-essential or iffy. You need to write totally differently for eg the bereaved than younwouid for general population

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user1353245678533567 · 29/03/2020 09:43

Who exactly is that making it better for?

It makes the shouty people feel better and more in control. It has fuck all to do with trying to "do the right thing" or "help" anyone.

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TabbyMumz · 29/03/2020 09:46

"I went for a drive yesterday as I haven’t driven for ages. I didn’t want my battery to go flat as I’m at work on Monday. Sometimes you have to go for a drive. I suppose I’ll get flamed for that"

"MURDERER"

Just seen this on another thread....absolutely hilarious. I hope it was tongue in cheek.

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Laniakea · 29/03/2020 09:47

Shitsgettingcrazy Grin Grin Grin

I tend to think that if you have to tell people that you're a hero then you probably aren't. It's just embarrassing.

I've been bollocked for saying this on other threads but this situation has exposed a grim part of society - sanctimonious, bullying, authoritarian etc & there's a surprising (not) overlap with the #bekind gang ... lots of people are utter wankers & I'm more depressed about that than the virus tbh.

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Wonkydonkey44 · 29/03/2020 09:49

I gave one of the workers a box of roses chocolates yesterday because she’s gone out of her way to help me two I’ve with elderly parent shopping and gluten free produce. Didn’t post it on face book Cake

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Wonkydonkey44 · 29/03/2020 09:49

In tescos - that should say

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FrangipaniBlue · 29/03/2020 09:50

For me, the home schooling heroes can just fuck off

This with bells on!!

I deactivated Facebook a week ago - some of the groups I was on had descended into bun fights, there was an equal mix of refusers and those out saving the world but by far the biggest reason was OH MY GOD THE COMPETITIVE FUCKING HOMESCHOOLING!

And this was coming from people I thought were normally sensible individuals Confused

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bringthegin · 29/03/2020 09:50

@MrsBobDylan the home school fucking hero's drive me nuts....I let their perfection crap get me down on day one; then thankfully got over it.

As it can't be bloody real, I mean seriously who has the time to create all that material, teach their beautiful well behaved kids Algebra, Manderine & phonetics (might as well be fucking space mechanics) - whilst holding down a full time job; finding online shopping slots, spending hours in a pharmacy queue, spending hours on the phone to concerned relatives and trying not to drink the entire alcohol cabinet in week 1.

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FrangipaniBlue · 29/03/2020 09:52

I think me an @bringthegin would get on like a house on fire Grin

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ChardonnaysPetDragon · 29/03/2020 09:52

The current situation with tree cutting and tree surgeons is a bit like the fox guarding the henhouse.

They don't give a flying fuck about anything but their profits.

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TabbyMumz · 29/03/2020 09:53

"I tend to think that if you have to tell people that you're a hero then you probably aren't. It's just embarrassing."

I absolutely agree. My neighbour puts #mentalhealth nurse on every single picture she puts up on Instagram. Every single one. She was out front lapping it up when everyone clapped. This week, shes had all and sundry to her house and spent yesterday with music blaring down the street for everyone to enjoy. But it's ok, shes a mental health nurse.
The other day someone else on here said she was a good person because she saves lives. She was a support worker.

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Laniakea · 29/03/2020 09:53

The restrictions aren't "saving lives" if they just cause deaths among a different group of people instead.

^yup the people screaming murderer are just too fucking stupid to understand that though ... and they think isolation is going to magically cure the virus. It's sad really.

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SmileyClare · 29/03/2020 09:56

I volunteer to kill and stuff Charlie shouldn't laugh but Grin

Agree with pp no parent should be filling their 6 year-old s head with all the horrific details of the pandemic, filling them with fear or making them feel responsible. Poor Charlie.

As for the Spanish soldier. Hola!

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YesIDoLoveCrisps · 29/03/2020 09:59

I volunteer to kill and stuff Charlie so that he can be placed in a museum where he belongs, to inspire generations yet to come!

Grin

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Shitsgettingcrazy · 29/03/2020 09:59

@ChardonnaysPetDragon let it go.

You were wrong.

If you want to debate the morals of tree surgery. Start a thread.

It's not what this thread is about and that man absolutely can be out doing his job.

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YesIDoLoveCrisps · 29/03/2020 10:01

I hope no one will hoard the rather handsome Spanish soldiers like they have been with loo roll we need to share them around. I am married but I will still have one

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Oliversmumsarmy · 29/03/2020 10:01

I don’t have Facebook but I think if I had I would probably be lynched by now.

I would be commenting “LOL” or “PMSL” at the old guy in the supermarket without his bread or thinking old guy was getting free bread and flogging it on for £10 per loaf.

Or the old guy with the list of Eggs.

Maybe he started the list then realised he only wanted eggs

I definitely would want to know the intricacies of how Charlie managed to manoeuvre several old people to the front of the queue by being 2m away from them.

As for

I saw last night that locally someone has set up a ‘name and shame’ Facebook group for people spotted flouting social distancing

For me that would be a challenge of how many times I could get a mention

Probably best I don’t have Facebook

I just think these are people who normally would be in work and being occupied.

That has been taken away from them and now they are trying to find another outlet for their need to be in charge

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SmileyClare · 29/03/2020 10:02

Chardonnay My point remains that train tracks need to made safe from falling tress or branches, especially after the recent storms. The same applies to power lines, unless you'd gladly go without electricity supply to your house until June?

That said, I don't want to argue. Flowers Some people are probably working irresponsibly so I understand your point to an extent.

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